We really need a damage boost from Beorning's skills.

[Hurshid]

Now beornings have problems with damage. Mostly, in raids Beornings take in as the main AOE heal. The damage level of beornings is extremely low, while even Captains give out much more damage.

[Knight19]

I hate to ruin the dream here but bears were never really intended to be a dps class. As much as the class description claims they are damage/support that has never really been the case. The real question is why would you try to force yourself into a dps roll when bears are such incredible tanks and healers? If you want a decent heavy melee dps class they have champs for that

[Hurshid]

champ good tank and good dps solo aoe ! bear doesn't have one!
the problem is that in all classes the damage is large, but in the bear it was not increased

[Zohal]

champ good tank ...

Ummm, like Captain is a good ranged dps? Or Warden a good healer? Or Hunter a good support class?

[RudieR]

Beornings DPS is very lacking nowadays, especially since the recent Fate fix. Landscape and leveling wise they are fine, however, in a raid they are not. I primarily heal as Beorning and consider that its primary role, but I wouldn't be opposed to making the class a viable damage dealer.

With 600k critical rating, 710k physical mastery, 216k finesse and the 4 DPS set pieces from T2+ Remmorchant, I'm averaging merely 75k dps on a 3 minute parse on the house training dummy (specced for both -15% physical mitigation from bees yellow line and +15% incoming damage from armour crush blue line). Before the fate fix this was higher, but still not nearly as much as hunters/champs/burgs/rks.

[AaronIU]

Beornings DPS is very lacking nowadays, especially since the recent Fate fix. Landscape and leveling wise they are fine, however, in a raid they are not. I primarily heal as Beorning and consider that its primary role, but I wouldn't be opposed to making the class a viable damage dealer.

With 600k critical rating, 710k physical mastery, 216k finesse and the 4 DPS set pieces from T2+ Remmorchant, I'm averaging merely 75k dps on a 3 minute parse on the house training dummy (specced for both -15% physical mitigation from bees yellow line and +15% incoming damage from armour crush blue line). Before the fate fix this was higher, but still not nearly as much as hunters/champs/burgs/rks.

A few contributing factors are glaring here, you’re 150k shy of mastery cap, and fairly low on crit rating/magnitude. These two factors alone probably compensate for a good portion of the damage you’re missing. Compounding that is probably a sub-optimal rotation. Rotational changes on most classes can vary from “average” to “good” to “near-perfect” and the difference in dps is STAGGERING. With literally just practice over and over and over with rotational changes I went from ~106k to ~116k to 133k to 153k. Very little gear change was made, just optimizing rotation. Sure, Warden dps rotations are a bit complex but it highlights the difference in rotational proficiency.

[Pavlin]

Ummm, like Captain is a good ranged dps? Or Warden a good healer? Or Hunter a good support class?

actualy yellow hunter is a great support class...

[TobiasEstForte]

champ good tank

Yes, that's why we see champs tanking in raids.

[Hurshid]

Yes, that's why we see champs tanking in raids.

Beornings too

[Vondershock]

Beorn should need a little boost or maybe some skill adjustement (maybe count the DW in bear form and decompose attack in 2 hit or more like 1hit/paw...) why not.
It's true that they are not the best DPS , but they have currently enought for all the content.

The true issue with Beor is just under this message .

Red beorning is more than 200K DPS staying in bear stance (and also in swap stance) with a good survivability as a melee .
Why the hell you still saying "blabla red beor is bad , they have to heal blabla"
NO , absolutly NO .
Beorning have to be what they want.

Or maybe you are trying to win a eSport event that only you know the existence and this is why you are trying to play the most meta build to gain the 1 second to break a world record that only you care ?
Player mastering classe making 200K + Dps on parse and knowing how to play in raid aren't enought ?

And don't waste time with the fake argument "why beor is the only classe that should have the possibility of three roles" , answer is simple, because they can.
Do you ask why some classe can tank or DPS when you play a mono role class like Hunter ? It's the exact same question.
Hunter deal damage because they can , they don't tank because they can't , they don't heal because they can't , it's the same thing.

Now , I would enjoy see you best 3 whole min parse ( alone ) to see your best scoring on dummy parse .
Also , do you only follow "meta" from the very few people making test parse instead of trying yourself other things ?

Best regards

[Pavlin]

Now beornings have problems with damage. Mostly, in raids Beornings take in as the main AOE heal. The damage level of beornings is extremely low, while even Captains give out much more damage.

Now? You sure? Thought is from day one

when bears are such incredible tanks and healers?

As one whos incredible good with all 3 boe specialisation i can tell you that bear was NEVER been an incredible tank. Now is OKish tank, stil far behind guardian and even more behind captain.The only reason is kinda better than wrd is the fakt we got heavy armor wich make us nearly imune to phisical dmg. (compared to wrd).
So thats all. Bear is great heal and ok tank and more than capable dps for low tier instances and landscape.
Think is ok that way, we dont need another dps class (speaking about t3+)

[Knight19]

As one whos incredible good with all 3 boe specialisation i can tell you that bear was NEVER been an incredible tank. Now is OKish tank, stil far behind guardian and even more behind captain.The only reason is kinda better than wrd is the fakt we got heavy armor wich make us nearly imune to phisical dmg. (compared to wrd).
So thats all. Bear is great heal and ok tank and more than capable dps for low tier instances and landscape.
Think is ok that way, we dont need another dps class (speaking about t3+)

They are great once you adapt to the class and learn how to properly position as a bear. I have never had an issue with aggro or survivability as a bear tank. Now as far as Capt tank goes we just cant compare any class to them as they easily have an edge over them all