Fate of Gundabad: delayed?

[Murtanion]

When can we expect the announcement? We are creeping up on the release date promised but history tells us that most of the previous expansions have been delayed. The most recent beta showed an unpolished and unfinished mess.

I know SSG standard procedure is to promise first and deliver later but this is embarrassing. I don't mind waiting for instances In a future dot update but we barely have a functional LI advancement scheme and brawler is just underperformed at higher levels .

People often take off work or devote extra time when an expansion releases. Would be nice to know ahead of time.

[DavidmeetHal]

Two things from me.

First, I always support delaying software to iron out some wrinkles, even though Star Citizen is an extreme example lol.


Second, I agree with the OP that if there is a delay, an announcement ahead of time would be really nice.

[Cordovan]

We have no indication so far that the release date of Fate of Gundabad will be delayed.

[JH15547]

We have no indication so far that the release date of Fate of Gundabad will be delayed.

Will there be a 3rd BR Beta to help garner community confidence and support for the expansion release? Based on what I have seen, you would need a team 2-3x the size of what SSG has to fix all the key issues that need to be addressed before go-live.

I'm not talking about feedback that would result in major enhancements or changes to content, systems, or mechanics. I'm talking about bugs - missing text, placeholder imagery, incomplete itemization, etc. Also the server performance issues which have only worsened in the past two weeks, instead of seeing the potential improvement we were all hoping for with the server configuration changes.

I mention the 3rd BR Beta preview as it's a way to counter the perception - fairly or not - that player feedback is ignored or overlooked to meet broader corporate whims on release dates, revenue timing, etc. I'm sure that a lot of that speculation is misinformed, or at least exaggerated. Go/No-Go decisions are always based on the push and pull of "we need to get it out" vs "we'll ruin our reputation if we release it in this state". But it's disheartening nonetheless when the feedback just goes into what appears to be a black hole.

[oggbnvwnyc]

Will there be a 3rd BR Beta to help garner community confidence and support for the expansion release? Based on what I have seen, you would need a team 2-3x the size of what SSG has to fix all the key issues that need to be addressed before go-live.

I'm not talking about feedback that would result in major enhancements or changes to content, systems, or mechanics. I'm talking about bugs - missing text, placeholder imagery, incomplete itemization, etc. Also the server performance issues which have only worsened in the past two weeks, instead of seeing the potential improvement we were all hoping for with the server configuration changes.

I mention the 3rd BR Beta preview as it's a way to counter the perception - fairly or not - that player feedback is ignored or overlooked to meet broader corporate whims on release dates, revenue timing, etc. I'm sure that a lot of that speculation is misinformed, or at least exaggerated. Go/No-Go decisions are always based on the push and pull of "we need to get it out" vs "we'll ruin our reputation if we release it in this state". But it's disheartening nonetheless when the feedback just goes into what appears to be a black hole.

LOL: do you actually think SSG cares about anything at all other than driving monetization as far as humanly possible?

- The "improved" LI system is a train-wreck in terms of UX and UI
- The "work" this "producer" claims they're doing to fix those massive server issues has close to 0 impact
- Class balance has been in the gutter for years

[Snowlock]

Should change the click bait title mate.

[cbfan14]

Should change the click bait title mate.

Agreed, this thread title could potentially misinform people. That said, it's been known since forever that live servers are the true beta. It'll probably be months before itemization is fully fleshed out; it was the same deal with Minas Morgul. It's just the usual buggy mess we're used to dealing with at the start of expansions; a delay won't really fix that, and it'll just create more mess as it causes more things to have to be pushed back in turn.

[littlesquinky]

When can we expect the announcement? .

Good bait click, you have a future in online publishing.

We have no indication so far that the release date of Fate of Gundabad will be delayed.

Care to edit the misleading title? Like a real mod would do?

[Harvain]

Yeah this Thread needs a name change and/or Closed.

Misinformation is rampant enough without these kind of Threads.

[Arnenna]

I think maybe some people missed the ? in the title. That's not misleading, it's a question. A simple click into the thread answers it.

Personally, I don't think they will delay release. Gundabad may not be 100% ready, but it is far more ready than the LI update was - or is, and they released that.

[LagunaD2]

The title was edited. There was no question mark originally.

[Sovereign50]

I think maybe some people missed the ? in the title. That's not misleading, it's a question. A simple click into the thread answers it.

That "?" was edited in after the fact. It was initially titled "Fate of Gundabad: Delayed".

Edit: Laguna beat me to it.

[Cordovan]

Yeah, I changed the thread title due to the requests in this thread to prevent confusion.

[Fr0striven]

Me and many that I've talked to are planning vacation time around Nov 10th and really looking forward to it so I hope it doesn't get delayed. Beta looks amazing.

[Pavlin]

Delay it and fix brawler. You know what i mean. Class is far from close to viable for fellow/raid pick. Also with new Li changes, the ones who main it will stuck with no Li and no way to obtain one, because no one will let them join raid/fellow. It take you 4 years to make beor semi viable, and he was copy paste from one class (Captain)
Brawler you baked from 2 (beor and champion) and the mess is even bigger. Hope you add his weapons to quest rewards, mobs drops etc. Same with armour. So far you can equit 2 parts of lvl 65 Hele raid at lvl 6 !?! at the cost of few marks. Is that fixed ? There are wrong/missleading tooltips. There are not working skills. Fixed ? Brawler is one of your big sellers for this expansion, and if you release it at his current stage, i (and not only me) will be dissapointed. The truth is i got the expansion, also 6 month sub, only becaise of the new class. I dont expect it to be fixed /even if it should be/ at day one. Neither to be op. But cant a hunter do 400k dps and brawler (AFTER players feedback and "fix") do maximum 80k. Wont mention his tank viability ... (just will say that is way worse than blue champion, and champion is not even a tank). Some will say, but brawler is support ? It can be, not in his current stage. If class have ONE specialisation, be sure hes the best in that specialistaion. So please take your time and FIX it to the point we see it in LFF chanel / as desired class)

[Schattenhand]

After coming back from 'New World' my initial thought was like:

I experienced a whole new benchmark of bugs and exploites and thousands of idiots abusing the hell out of it.
What can go wrong?

It made those few LOTRO "problems" so tiny, it's wonderful.