Bullroarer Update 33.2 - Beta #3 - CLOSED

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Bullroarer is CLOSED

Bullroarer is closing a little sooner than we planned. Thank you for your participation and feedback!

Server Opening Time: Tuesday, 09/13 ~12:30 PM ET
Server Closing Time: Friday, 09/15 ~2:15 PM ET

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• Character Copy is AVAILABLE. This can be accessed through the 'Transfer' button on any LOTRO Launcher.
• NOTE: The player database was wiped at the beginning of Beta on 08/30.
• NOTE: While Berthadan, the Legendary Server Difficulty NPC, is available on Bullroarer, we ask that he only be used to set copied characters from Shadowfax and Treebeard back to Normal Difficulty.

Update 33.2
This update includes a revamp of the Minstrel yellow line, many Monster Play changes, and a some new class choices for various races. This update is still a work in progress, so please post your feedback and let us know about any issues you find!
NOTE: Minstrels! All minstrel class trait trees have been reset for Update 33.2. If you play a Minstrel please re-spend your class trait points and save your preferred specs.

Release Notes - Beta #3:

New release notes are in violet.

Classes (General):

• Beorning - Brutal Retribution Armour Sets now list and use a four item set bonus.
• Brawler - Trait Trail Food Boost now works with Feast of Anórien and Superior Feast of Anórien.
• Brawler - Will now gain the correct Battlerank modifiers when entering the Ettenmoors.
• Brawler - Will receive appropriate loot drops for both Library and School at Tham Mirdain.
• Burglar - Now start the game with two daggers equipped.
• Burglar - Mounted Combat critical hits will now correctly open the critical skill chain.
• Burglar - Fixed Gambler's Surprise Strike not multiplying properly with "Damaging Gambles" damage.
• Burglar - Cunning Attack Bleeds should now reapply correctly even when a current bleed is about to expire.
• Burglar - Red Gambles will now stack with those applied by different Burglars.
• Burglar - Gambler's Advantage bleeds will now stack with those applied by different Burglars.
• Captain - Now start the game with a Two-Handed Sword.
• Captain - Noble Mark range is no longer reduced by Venomous Haze.
• Warden's now start the game with a javelin equipped.
• Captain & Warden Stout-axe Classes can now open the Stout-axe Newbie Heirloom pack.
• During Character creation:
  - Dwarf and Stout-axe characters can now choose the Captain and Warden classes.
  - Elf and High Elf characters can now choose the Burglar class.
  - Hobbit characters can now choose the Champion and Lore-master classes.
  - Man characters can now choose the Rune-keeper class.
• Incoming Healing Debuffs:
  - Incoming Healing debuffs applied by players now stack with one another. Unique debuffs will not stack with themselves. This applies to all classes.
  - Some Incoming Healing debuffs have been reduced in potency.

Minstrel Changes:

• Please direct your minstrel feedback here: https://forums.lotro.com/forums/show...42#post8154742
• Minstrels can no longer specialize in the ‘Protector of Song’ trait line.
• Because yellow-line can no longer be chosen as a specialization, yellow trait costs have been adjusted. In general, yellow traits only cost one point, while skill-granting traits cost two, and significant traits cost 3.
• NOTE: All minstrel class trait trees have been reset for Update 33.2. If you play a Minstrel please re-spend your class trait points and save your preferred specs.

CALL TO GREATNESS / SONG OF AID:

• Call to Greatness:
  - Reworked Call to Greatness significantly. It now has a 7m cooldown, and resets one key class cooldown per trait tree for every fellowship or raid member within 25m.
  - There is a 2m cooldown on receiving this effect.
  - Armour set bonuses which reduce Call to Greatness cooldown changed from -45s to -60s.
  - Armour set bonus which gave Call to Greatness a chance to trigger its effects again now gives Call to Greatness a chance to reset the cooldown of Song of Aid.
• Song of Aid:
  - Song of Aid no longer grants unique, class-specific bonuses.
  - Now grants your fellowship a Heal over Time as well as reduces and reflects a portion of incoming damage.
  - The HoT effect lasts 10s; the buff reduces and reflects 15% of damage for 10s, then 5% of damage for another 15s.

ANTHEMS:

• All anthems:
  - Base buff durations reduced to 30s.
  - Anthems share a 25s cooldown.
  - Anthems no longer alter Codas (See Invigorating Anthems for these effects).
  - Anthems are only usable in combat.
  - All anthems grant a benefit to your entire fellowship or raid.
  - All Anthems are now 'Fast' skills.
  - Anthem Duration bonus from the 'Anthem Duration' trait halved (from 50s max to 25s).
  - All Anthems except for Anthem of the Free Peoples are now categorized as Lesser or Greater Anthems
  - Lesser Anthems require one ballad buff to play.
  - Greater Anthems require 2 ballad buffs to play.
  - Lesser and Greater Anthems form 3 pairs, and are numbered accordingly.
  - Lesser and Greater Anthems which form a pair will combine their effects into a single buff on your allies. Subsequently (as long as the buff has not expired) using either Anthem from the pair will refresh the combined buff's duration.
• Anthem of Third Age: Dissonance: Now gives +20% Cry and Call Damage to yourself, and +5% Light, Fire, Lightning, and Frost Damage to your group.
• Anthem of Third Age: Resonance: Now gives a less potent -Induction modifier, but gives +5% Outgoing Healing and -5% Induction Duration to your group.
  - Anthem of the Third Age: Dissonance now correctly resets Cry of the Valar when you have the 'Invigorating Anthems' trait.
• Anthem of Composure: Now grants less Tactical Mitigation, but gives 3% Shadow, Acid, and Fire Mitigation.
• Anthem of Compassion: New/returning! -1-4% Incoming Damage (formerly on Inspire Fellows) and 3% Lightning and Frost Mitigation.
• Anthem of the Free Peoples: New/returning! 1-5% inc healing and 2-10% Outgoing Damage.
• Anthem of Prowess: +5% Melee Damage, -5% Attack Duration and 5% Orc-craft and Fell-wrought Mitigation.
  - Anthem of Prowess no longer gives bonus Agility.
• Anthem of War: Bonus to Melee Damage has been moved to Anthem of Prowess.
• The tracery 'Anthem of War Damage Buffs' now includes 'Prowess' in its name; this tracery is essentially unchanged, but the buffs modified by the tracery are split between Anthem of War and Anthem of Prowess.
• The tracery 'Anthem Duration' has had its effect halved (now +33s max).
• New Trait: Invigorating Anthems:
  - Rank 1 grants anthems a personal effect when used (formerly gained from using anthems followed by codas).
  - Extra Anthem effects granted by rank 1 of 'Invigourating Anthems' have been improved.
  - Ranks 2-4 reduce anthem cooldowns slightly.
  - Rank 5 of 'Invigourating Anthems' will cause Cry of the Chorus to reset Anthem cooldowns.

BALLADS:

• All Ballads are now 'Fast' skills.
• Ballad buffs which previously reduced power cost now increase your Incoming Healing (this affects the Perfect Performance buff and the Strike a Chord debuff as well).
• Perfect Ballad now heals you for a small amount when used in Melody stance.
• Minor Ballad now does slightly more damage when used in Dissonance stance.
• The trait 'Resonant Ballads' (a Watcher of Resolves specialization trait) now also causes Ballads to reduce the active cooldown of Cry of the Chorus.
• Major Ballad (Resonance) can now target allies, rather than healing in an AoE around the caster.
  - The Major Ballad description no longer suggests that its heal is always centered on the user.

CODAS:

• Coda of Fury damage increased slightly. Fellowship damage buff reduced to 1% (5% with Thunderous Codas).
• Coda of Melody buff now gives 1% resistance penetration (5% with Thunderous Codas) rather than partial BPE.
• Coda of Resonance buff reduced to 1% Incoming Healing (5% with Thunderous Codas).

STANCE-BASED SKILLS:

• Melody of Battle:
  - Reflect potency is still very small, but is now based on incoming damage.
  - Now gives a 3% Parry bonus, rather than Parry Rating.
  - New/merged trait 'Memories of Battle' adds a chance to apply a +Threat generation effect to the recipient of Melody of Battle.
• Echoes of Battle:
  - Now applies the debuff formerly on 'Timeless Echoes of Battle'.
  - Damage reduced slightly.
• Timeless Echoes of Battle:
  - Now applies a lesser version of its former debuff.
  - Damage increased slightly.
  
• Echoes of Battle and Timeless Echoes of Battle will now toggle themselves off if you leave their required stances.
• Call to Oromë:
  - Now available in Melody stance, with reduced damage.
  - Debuff duration increased when used in Melody.
  - Reduced debuff potency when used in Dissonance.
  - Both debuffs will stack with each other and themselves, but only 2 of these debuffs can be active on a target at any time.
• Call to Fate can now be used in Melody stance.
• 'Dissonant Strike,' 'Hero's Strike,' and 'Healer's Strike' have had their damage and healing values rebalanced slightly against one another.
• Piercing Cry will now stun on critical hits and remove corruptions only in Melody stance.
• Dissonant Piercing Cry damage increased slightly.

OTHER SKILLS:

• Cry of the Valar damage increased slightly, and no longer buffs your In-combat Morale Regen.
• Cry of the Wizards damage increased slightly.
• Inspire Fellows no longer grants a -1% incoming damage effect (now found on Anthem of Compassion).
• Cry of the Chorus cooldown increased from 60s to 75s. (This was 90s last beta).
• Cry of the Chorus silence immunity reduced to 10s duration.

TRAITS:

• New trait: Anthem of Compassion (Watcher of Resolve tree).
• The trait 'Improved Inspire Fellows' no longer adds damage reduction; that effect is now on Anthem of Compassion.
  - The 'Improved Inspire Fellows' trait will now cause Inspire Fellows to tier up Inner Strength on your fellows, when the 'Inner Strength' trait is also active.
• New Trait: Thunderous Codas:
  - Rank 1 grants an additional effect to each coda.
  - Coda of Fury deals additional damage after a brief delay.
  - Coda of Melody has a 25% chance to reset Anthem cooldowns.
  - Coda of Resonance applies a small splash heal around your target after a brief delay.
  - Ranks 2-5 increase the fellowship-wide buffs from your Codas.
• Cry of the Valar is now a red-line set bonus, only accessible if you are specialized in the Warrior-Skald tree.
• The trait 'Fierce Cries' is now a trait in the red tree, and its potency has been increased to 20%.
• Triumphant Spirit:
  - Now a blue-line trait set bonus, only accessible if you are specialized in the Watcher of Resolve tree.
  - Triumphant Spirit now has a base 2m 45s cooldown, formerly achieved by spending another trait point on it.
• The trait 'Raise Our Spirits' has been moved to the blue tree, and will cause Raise the Spirit to apply a small AoE heal after a brief delay; its max rank has been reduced to 4.
• Trait: Word Spreads:
  - This trait has been merged with 'Strength of the Hammerhand'.
  - Rather than adding a Mastery buff, Rank 3 now increases single-target skill damage while the bubble is active. The potency of this damage buff is greatest for Song of the Hammerhand, weaker for Gift of the Hammerhand, and weakest for Legend of Helm Hammerhand, to reflect the increased number of allies affected.
  - When using Song of the Hammerhand, improved by 'Word Spreads' and with the Hiddenhoard armour set, you will now correctly receive the 10% damage bonus, rather than 5%.
• The trait 'Improved Hero's Strike' is now 'Improved Strikes' and now improves all three strike skills' Damage by up to 30% and Healing by up to 50%.
• Additional ranks in 'Perfect Performance' now also increase the duration of the buffs granted by this trait.
• The trait 'Cacophonous Timeless Echoes' is now called 'Cacophonous Echoes' as this trait improves both damaging versions of 'Echoes' as well as the red-line capstone trait 'Harsh Echoes.'
• The trait 'Of All Trades' now has 5 ranks, and its effects have been changed slightly: its max bonus is now +10% Outgoing Healing and +15% Damage.
• Increased potency of debuffs from the trait 'Strike a Chord'.
• The trait 'Sharing a Story' has been split into two separate traits:
  - 'Songs of Woe' increases ballad crit chance (1-5%).
  - 'Sharing a Story' causes Ballad criticals to reset all versions of Piercing Cry.
• Tale of Tales:
  - The Tale of Tales trait no longer grants you a passive buff aura. When traited, Tale of Tales will cause your Anthems to tier up a 30s duration raid-wide buff, increasing potency and granting additional bonuses each time it tiers up.
• The Tale of Tales effect will grant you bonus Fate, Resistance, Finesse, Critical Rating, and Vitality at the highest tier.
• Still as Death duration reduced to 10s.
• Tracery 'Still as Death Cooldown' now reduces the Still as Death cooldown by 48-66s (depending on rarity).

MISC / FIXES:

• The former set bonus 'Inspire Fellows damage reduction stacks' now gives a +30% chance for Coda of Melody to reset Anthem cooldowns.
• The former set bonus 'Inspire fellows damage reduction' now gives extra duration for the Song of Aid lesser damage redirect.
• Several effects have been changed from -All Skill Inductions to -Healing Skill Inductions.
• Several Traits and Effects have had their icons changed to better reflect what skills or effects they are related to.
• References to 'Dissonance Cries and Calls' should now be 'Cries and Calls' as these modifiers generally apply to Cries and Calls regardless of whether or not you're in Dissonance stance.
• The Fear Resistance buff from Story of Courage has been reduced in potency and no longer stacks with itself.
• Reduced baseline inductions of all induction skills by 15%.
• Song of the Hammerhand and Gift of the Hammerhand bubbles were erroneously reduced to a starting value of 10% of your maximum morale. This has been fixed, and the base bubble value is once again 20% of your maximum morale.
• Melody of Battle reflect potency increased.
• 'Change of Pace' trait display has been fixed. It was erroneously displaying as though it only granted the 'Heal!' version of its effect.
• Updated the trait and skill tooltips for Improved/Story of Courage to accurately reflect how the trait and skills function.
• Fixed an issue where 'Call of Orome - Melody' would say 'Skill not ready yet' when its cooldown had been shortened by Haste or Coda of Fury.
• Increased the base damage of most damaging abilities, especially those which are specific to the 'Warrior-Skald' tree and Dissonance stance.
  
• The 'Gripped by Fear' trait now displays the correct number of seconds of its grace period.
  
• Increased Healing slightly from Triumphant Spirit, Fellowship's Heart, and Song of Aid.

REMOVED:

• Protector of Song:
  - The trait 'Shield Focus' is no longer available.
  - The corresponding skill 'Shield Focus' has been removed.
  - The trait 'Shielding Cry' has been removed.
  - The trait 'Improved Coda of Melody' has been removed.
  - The skill 'Anthem of the Third Age: Melody' and its associated traits have been removed.
  - The trait 'Improved Call of the Second Age' has been removed.
• Watcher of Resolve:
  - The trait 'Resolute' (Block Rating) has been removed.
  - The trait 'Inspiring Cries and Calls' has been removed.

Monster Play Class Changes:

• Update brings the monster player baseline stats to 480 equivalent.
• All classes get +25% base health.
• Reaver: +5% Base Melee Damage.
• Defiler: +5% Base Melee Damage, +5% Base Magic Damage.
• Blackarrow: +5 Base Melee and Ranged Damage.
• Warleader: +10% Base Melee Damage and +10% Base Tactical Damage.
• Stalker: +5% to Base Melee Damage +15% to Base Tactical Damage.
• Weaver: +5% to Base Melee Damage.

Orc Reaver:

• 'Time-Out' now cleanses 3 negative effects and briefly reduces both outgoing and incoming damage, rather than restoring power.
  - Time-Out was only removing one negative effect. It now correctly removes 3.
• The trait 'Improved Jagged Cut' now also slightly increases potency of bleeds from Lacerate and Mutilation.
• New Trait: Double-edged Blades:
  - Adds a chance for Sudden Strikes, Ravage, and Devastating Strike to tier up a Corruption buff on the Reaver, causing you to take +2% Incoming Damage, but deal +8% Skill Damage per tier (5 tiers max).
  - 15% chance to receive the effect for each strike made from each of these skills.
  - This effect is a Corruption, and can be tiered down or dispelled by the free peoples.
• Resilience now provides a 10s immunity to roots and slows on a 40s cooldown and breaks all CC.
• Enhanced Resilience extends the duration of immunity to 15s and extends CC immunity to all forms of CC for the duration.
• Blinding Dust now increases miss chance by 20% for 30s hitting up to 4 targets on a 15s cooldown - this remains a wound ability.
  - The debuff from 'Blinding Dust' has been returned to 20% (down from 40% last Beta).
• Sundering Blow now reduces the armor of the target by 168k for 60s.
• Thrash Wound has its damage increased for the DoT.
• Blade Toss now slows the target by 20% for 15s.
  - Blade Toss duration is now correctly 10s normally and 15s when traited.
• Enhanced Blade Toss now has a +50% chance to knock the target down and increases the potency of the slow debuff to 40%.
• Upper Hand now has a 15s reduction of B/P/E by 120k on a target, increased self-armor for 20s and adds a Corruption to the Reaver, which gives +50% chance that Blade Toss will knock a target down.
• Enhanced Upper Hand now causes the Upper Hand corruption effect to decrease active cooldowns when using damaging skills (Skills affected by the corruption cooldown effect are: Sundering Blow, Blinding Dust, Disarm, Severing Strike, Blade Toss, Impale, Devastating Strike, and Mutilation).
  - The 'Improved Upper Hand' debuff now shows correctly under your opponent's vitals.
• Charge can now be used in combat, though the in-combat version only gives +50% move speed for 4s, and will not make you immune to CC.
  - Charge/Rush duration is now 8s when used out of combat and 5s when used in combat.
• Devastating Strike now has a 15s/8s cooldown and a threshold require of 33%/50 for the differing variants decreases the incoming healing on a target for 8s and increases the damage done by 150% and 250% for the normal and enhanced version respectively.
• Added a Physical/Wound cleanse to Blood Lust, which increases the potency of the buff for each effect cleansed, at the cost of morale.
• Minor tweak to the angle of the Jagged Cut AoE arc.
• Blood Lust now correctly grants a stronger critical chance buff for each additional effect it cleanses.
• Moderately increased damage taken by cleansing effects with Blood Lust.
• Ravage and Sudden Strikes once again trigger the heal from Wrath, and Sudden Strikes once again reduce the cooldown of Wrath.
• Disarm is once again Immediate.
  
• Impale bonus damage now correctly benefits from buffs that modify "Reaver Skill Damage".

Orc Defiler:

• The trait 'Enhanced Curse of Sticky Feet' now reduces Fire Mitigation and an appropriate amount of Tactical Mitigation for level 140; however, the debuff is now a cleansable wound effect.
• 'Anointing of the Slick Flesh' now removes up to three Physical or Tactical effects.
• 'Constant Pain' now deals significantly more damage and significantly less healing.
• 'Curse of the Lethargic Heart' debuff potency increased slightly.
• 'Curse of Deadly Sorrows' now reduces an opponent's Fate, Tactical Mastery, Armour Value, Resistance, and and Finesse.
• 'Curse of the Melancholic Heart' now reduces Outgoing Healing by 50% (from 25%).
• 'Gooey Gourd' now increases Skill Inductions by 70% (was 100% last Beta) but is now a cleansable poison effect.
• Summoned Flies improvements:
  - Regular summoned flies from 'Plague of Flies' now last 10s and deal much less damage, but have more morale, and significantly increased evade chance.
  - When traited, Improved flies now last 20s (down from 30s) but have a greater miss chance debuff, more morale, and even greater evade chance.
• 'Efflorescence' induction increased from 1s to 2s.
• Morale cost of Fell Sacrifice increased to 2% of max morale.
• Gourd skills base inductions increased to 2.5s.
• New stance: 'Curse-shouter':
  - Reduces outgoing healing and increases damage.
  - Curse-shouter's Outgoing Healing debuff has increased from -50% to -60% Healing.
  - Reduces inductions of Gourd and Curse skills.
  - Disables 'Efflorescence'.
  - Alters 'Fungal Bloom'.
  - Reduced healing, increased cooldown.
  - Applies a 30s buff 'Poison Bloom' which increases potency of Damage over Time effects.
  - Fungal Bloom, when in Curse-shouter, initial heal reduced significantly.
  - Fungal Bloom induction reduced (back) to 1s.
  - 'Fell Restoration' becomes 'Doom of the North':
  - Doom of the North deals Frost damage and applies a Fear that counts down for 5s before dealing significant Frost damage to the target. If cleansed, the effect deals significantly less damage.
  - Doom of the North latent damage increased slightly.
  - 'Fungal Spores' becomes 'Stinging Spores':
  - Stinging Spores deals a small amount of Acid Damage, as well as Acid Damage over Time, and stacks up to 3 times on a target.
  - Leaving Curse-shouter stance now applies a trailing debuff which reduces Healing by 90% for 15s (was 10s last Beta).
• New stance: 'Herb-tender':
  - Increases healing and decreases damage.
  - Healing skills gain the ability to tier up the 'Invigorated' Corruption effect on allies, increasing damage, reducing attack speed, and increasing incoming healing.
  - Curses become Boon skills which apply Corruption buffs to allies.
  - 'Curse of the Lethargic Heart' becomes 'Boon of the Blackened Heart':
  - +15% Damage dealt
  - 'Curse of Rotten Flesh' becomes 'Boon of Toxic Flesh':
  - -10% Incoming Damage
  - 'Curse of Deadly Sorrows' becomes 'Boon of the Battle-scarred':
  - Increases Armour, Beleriand Mitigation, Light Mitigation, and Resistance Rating
• Fixed some out of date & incorrect tooltips.
  
• 'Boon' skill inductions reduced slightly.

Uruk Blackarrow:

• New Corruption buff: Stand Tall:
  - Gives +5% Skill Damage, +2 Max Range, and -3% Induction Duration per tier.
  - Tiers up to a max of 3 (15% Damage, 6 Range, -10% Inductions).
  - 15s Duration.
  - This effect is a Corruption, and can thus be dispelled by the free peoples.
• 'Centre' is once again a channeled skill:
  - Tiers up Stand Tall every 1.5s while channeling.
  - Fixed negative Power scaling on Centre.
  - Centre now restores morale instead of power.
  - Centre now ticks every 1s.
• 'Vital Target' and 'Improved Vital Target' will add one tier of Stand Tall.
• Improved/Vital Target no longer applies an Incoming Healing debuff.
  - Vital Target (the non-improved version) now deals slightly less damage, and does not tier up the 'Stand Tall' corruption.
• Steadfast Barrage increases range to 40m and deals more damage per tick and channels for 6 seconds. Cooldown now 20s.
• Improved Steadfast Barrage gives a chance to crit and increases damage per tick and channels for 8 seconds. Cooldown now 20s.
• Strong Pull now deals more damage, tiers up 'Stand Tall' and has a 12s cooldown (outside of Skirmisher) (Was 15s last Beta).
  - Strong Pull now correctly tiers up 'Stand Tall' while Keen Eye is active.
• Tangleshot now applies a -30% Incoming Healing debuff.
• Tangleshot now has a 20s cooldown. (Was 25 seconds last Beta)
• Increased Damage slightly for some basic skills.
  
• Damage from Snare and Fire Trap reduced.
  
• Damage increased slightly for Cut, Gash, Hindering Shot, Death Blossom, Revenge, Screaming Shafts, In Your Face, and Tangleshot.
  
• Explosive Arrow now correctly deals AoE damage after a countdown.
  
• Explosive Arrow countdown now lasts 2s and is a Wound Effect. Cleansing the Wound will prevent the AoE damage, but still deal full damage to the initial target.
  
• Explosive Arrow AoE range increased to 7m radius.

Uruk Warleader:

• 'Command Post' now increases all masteries by 25%.
• 'Banner of Terror' now also includes a Level of Dread when it is summoned.
  - The debuff from 'Banner of Terror' no longer reduces tactical mastery. It now reduces physical mastery, and the potency of that reduction has been reduced.
• 'Banner of Horror' now also includes three levels of Dread when it is summoned.
  - Dread from Banner of Horror and Banner of Terror will now stack correctly.
• 'Menacing Roar' range increased to 20m and total targets increased to 6.
  - The debuff from Menacing Roar now only stacks up to 3 times on a target, and its rating debuff has been reduced slightly. It now also reduces Fear Resistance by 5%.
• 'Black Speech' damage increased.
• 'Cleave' damage increased slightly, and is now a small AoE, dealing damage to up to 3 targets.
• 'Fracture' damage increased considerably.
• The trait 'Damage Boost' trait now grants +25% damage, rather than 3%.
• The trait 'Empowering' now has a Tactical Mastery value appropriate for level 140 and its In-combat Power Regen has been changed to Resistance Rating.
• 'Purge' no longer breaks allies out of stealth.
• When traited, 'Purge' now grants 6s of immunity to CC.
• Skill Fracture now applies its effect regardless of the damage hitting the player when the trait Power of Fear is traited.
  - When 'Power of Fear' is traited, Fracture now correctly grants you the no-induction buff regardless of whether it hits your enemy.
• Reduce healing induction by 15% on the trait Harsh Language.
• Brawler stance now correctly reduces Healing for all healing skills.
• Leaving Brawler stance now applies a trailing debuff which reduces Healing for 10s.
  - Brawler's and Commander's stances once again have a 4s cooldown, and will not prevent you from swapping directly between them. The -50% outgoing healing effect from leaving Brawler's stance has also been removed.

Spider Weaver:

• 'Clinging Webs' miss chance debuff increased from 7% to 15%.
  - Improved Clinging Webs now correctly applies both the original miss chance debuff and the additional evade and parry debuff.
• 'Venomous Haze' now has a max range of 40m, and reduces player ranged skills by 15m.
• 'Lethal kiss' now deals slightly more damage at the outset, and deals ~4x that damage after ten seconds if the effect is not removed; cooldown has been increased to 10s.
  - The Lethal Kiss latent damage effect can stack up to three times on a target at once, and is able to critically hit.
• 'Grasping Webs' now has a 50% chance to break on damage.
• 'Necrosis' now reduces the resistance rating of targets by 120k.
• The trait 'Steelweave Webs' now increases the grace period of your roots to 3s.
• 'Envenom' base damage increased; bonus 20% damage for every venom pip.
• 'Shelob's Gift' reduced from a full heal to a ~1/3 heal.
  - Shelob's Gift heal potency reduced.
  - Shelob's Gift now gives 5 Venom and increases DoT damage for 15s.
  - Shelob's Gift cooldown increased to 30s.
  - Shelob's Gift DoT Damage buff increased from 20% to 50%.
• 'Feast' now restores morale on a defeat event instead of power.
• 'Poison Spray' can now be used against NPCs.
• Hatchlings:
  - Base Hatchling Health increased by 15%.
  - Strong Brood now gives +75% Health, -10% power, 5% faster attacks, +25% melee damage, +25% Critical Damage, +25% Melee Critical Hit Points, +15% Evade Rate.
  - Scytode Brood now gives +25% health, +15% power, +10% faster attack speed, -25% melee damage, +35% ranged damage, +25% critical chance, +15% melee critical hit points, +10% Evade Rate.
  - Hatchlings will now accept the skins of their summoning spider in the Ettenmoors.
• New skill: Cleansing Shadows:
  - Costs 3 Venom.
  - The weaver can consume up to 3 negative tactical, song, or cry effects.
  - The weaver is healed a small amount for each effect consumed.
• 'Toxic Carapace' has been reworked slightly:
  - The effect from Toxic Carapace now tiers down over time; the starting tier depends on the number of Venom pips consumed.
  - Tier 5 effect is now -25% incoming damage, 80% reflected damage.
  - Incoming damage potency is reduced 5% per tier, and reflect potency is reduced 10% per tier.
  - Overall duration and cooldown increased slightly (25s maximum possible duration, 90s cooldown).
  - This effect is now a Corruption, meaning it can be tiered down or dispelled by the free peoples.
  - Toxic Carapace now tiers down correctly when each tier expires.
  - Toxic Carapace once again only reflects incoming 'attacks' rather than all 'damage.' This means Toxic Carapace will not reflect damage from DoTs which are already present on the Weaver.
• Toxin now decreases your target's Incoming Healing by 20% for 10s.
• Piercing Attack now gives 2 Venom.
  
• Envenom, Virulent Poison, and Poison Spray damage values are now correctly increased by all relevant buff effects.
  
• Catch Prey cooldown reduced to 5s.
  
• Catch Prey will now tier up an Incoming Melee Damage debuff (1-5%) on your target, in addition to its original effects.

Warg Stalker:

• Flayer stance:
  - Flayer Bubble is now 7% of max health.
  - Improved Flayer Armour & Mit buffs rolled into regular flayer buff; Improved Flayer Trait now gives -10% incoming melee/ranged damage, +5% Beleriand Mitigation, and +20% Threat.
  - Ending or cancelling Pack Flayers' root will no longer dispel Flayer bubble.
• 'Pack Hunters' (non-Shadow/non-Flayer version) now increases a target's incoming damage by 5% and reduces incoming healing by 30%.
• 'Shadow Pack' now reduces incoming healing by 25%; 10% after leaving the debuff area.
  - The incoming healing debuff from Shadow Pack no longer stacks with itself.
• 'Improved Rallying Howl' Damage buff lasts 25s, rather than 15s.
• Baseline 'Stealth' no longer reduces movement speed, but base Stealth level has been decreased by 3.
• The trait 'Improved Stealth' now increases stealthed movement speed 5%, Increases Stealth level by 7, and increases Critical Chance of attacks from stealth by 10%.
• Reduced 'Bestial Claws' Damage slightly.
• Increased 'Scratch and Snip' Damage slightly.
• Added minor damage to the initial skill hits of 'Crippling Bite' and all versions of 'Savage Fangs.'
• Shadow Fangs now places an effect that reduces the ability to parry by 68000 and increases induction timers by 25% (notes incorrectly specified 45%).
• Snap! now reduces the target's damage by 10% for 30s (this is a multiplicative reduction).
• Flea Bitten now applies an initial interrupt and then a pulsing interrupt on the target that lasts for 15 seconds pulsing every five seconds.
• Howl of unnerving now has a 50% chance to apply a fear debuff, reducing mitigation by 20% on up to 4 targets.
• Brutal Fangs(Flayer Stance) now reduces Block, Parry, and Evade by 25% and, when scoring a Brute bonus hit decreases armor by 25% for 45s.
• Pounce/Sudden Pounce now applies a corruption to the warg increasing the damage of "Fang" by 150% for 24s.
• Scratch and Snip now applies two buffs when used in Shadow stance: one gives 100% crit chance on the next attack you make with your jaws, and the second gives 100% crit chance on the next attack made with your claws.
• In Flayer stance, Swipe now adds a corruption to the warg increasing the chance to land "Brute" effects by 50%.
• Howl of the Unnerving base BPE debuff now only stacks 2 times on a player.
• The three variants of 'Howl' are once again Immediate skills.
• Tendon Shred is now correctly affected by the 'Slavering Fangs' corruption buff from Pounce.
• Piercing Claws now correctly benefits from the 'Scratch' buff from Feral Scratch and Snip.

General Monster Play Changes:

• General Orc Change: Undying Rage cooldown is now 8m and requires the Orc to be under 50% health. On activation applies a Corruption effect that makes the Orc immune to death, increases damage, reduces incoming damage and on expiration deals 50% of the orc's max morale as damage. Additionally, using skills while under the effects of Undying Rage will heal the orc for 2% of their max morale. If the Corruption is removed before the effect expires the Orc does NOT suffer the damage and has the cooldown for Undying Rage reduced by 360s.
• Dying Rage now correctly reduces morale by 50% upon expiration, rather than killing you outright.
• Outpost changes: For each outpost that monsters players control they receive a 20% bonus to Glory/Infamy and commendation earns and 44900 finesse. For each outpost that free players control they receive a 20% bonus to Glory/Infamy. There are no other bonuses for controlling these locations.
• Tower Changes: For each tower or camp locale that monster players and free players control they receive a 25% bonus to Glory/Infamy and commendation earns. There are no other bonuses applied for controlling these locations.
• Tol Ascarnen: Controlling Tol Ascarnen grants the controlling faction a 50% bonus to Glory/Infamy and commendation earns. There are no other bonuses applied for controlling Tol Ascarnen.
• Artifact changes: When monster player control their artifact they receive +5% to all defences, +5% to all damage, +50% increase to Glory/Infamy and commendations earns, Increased Finesse by 180000, and a 2% reduction in power costs. When free players control their artifact they receive +2% to all their defences, +50% increase to Glory/Infamy and commendations earn, and a 2% reduction in power costs.
• We have updated the appearance for the new spider appearance available on the LotRO Store. The appearance is now the Gamnogal spider appearance.
• The White Hand warg skin in the Ettenmoors was errantly changed. We have put the correct skin back on the trait.
• Maps to Gramsfoot now all have a 60s cooldown. This is to alleviate the issue with the map being removed from the initial quest deed.
• Tinctures of Audacity have been removed from the game as they were artificially inflating the cost of Audacity while active on Monster Players. If you use one and then attempt to train the audacity trait you are paying a cost 5 levels higher.

Miscellaneous:

• Blood Craban and Formal Corgi pets now appear in Collections panel.
• Corrects a grammatical error in the German title: "Bane of the Nine". It is now "Fluch der Neun".
• Added new cosmetic items for barter for the 2022 Fall Festival.
• IAXP Runes no longer drop From Woe of the Willow T1 Chest.
• When using Scholar Crafting magnifying glass and book props on Hobbit Males now appear correctly.
• The quest "Intro: Strider's Charge" now gives a Robe as a light armor reward option.
• Having discovered an error in the legendary item xp required by the legendary item rewards track across various levels, we have made adjustments to the curve. These changes will speed up progress through the legendary items rewards track for characters of most levels. For levels 45 - 60 and 95 - 120 the legendary item xp required to advance the track has been reduced. For levels 61 - 94 the legendary item xp required to advance the track has been greatly reduced. For levels 121 - 130 the legendary item xp required to advance the track has been slightly reduced. For now, at levels 131 - 140, the legendary item xp required to advance the track remains exactly the same, however we plan to make adjustments in future seasons, likely requiring slightly more legendary item experience to advance at levels 131 and higher.
• Stout-axes now hold chickens correctly.
• The heave emote will now display properly on a female Stout-axe Dwarf.
• Landscape textures in Azanulbizar were fuzzy and now they are not.
• The "Rambling Rover" title now displays properly in German.
• Clicking on pips in the reward track will now zoom the display to the selected milestone.
• The hotkey for the Reward Track can now be remapped.
• The bestowal text in the Gloomingtarn quest 'Unsafe Passage' now displays properly in German.
• The Mount of the Shadowed King now shows the correct acquisition information in the Collections Panel.
• FRENCH: The tooltip of the Tol Falthui boat now lists the correct destination.
• Fixed the Mithril Travel to Nalunitir during 'Chapter 13.5: The Watch on the Dead City'.

[Joedangod]

Minstrel Changes:

• Minstrels can no longer specialize in the ‘Protector of Song’ trait line.

Removing the support bard archetype. Odd choice, yGuard was right there for the pruning.

[Accomp]

It be nice if quest items for the moors could stack to 500 for Creeps... and maybe add a quest item bag with 50 slots purchasable in the store for Freeps..

[Askelin]

Reavers are insane!

[Spilo]

Will post feedback when tested but:

Still as Death duration reduced to 10s.
Tracery 'Still as Death Cooldown' now reduces the Still as Death cooldown by 48-66s (depending on rarity).

Sick.

Update brings the monster player baseline stats to 480 equivalent.

What does this mean stat wise?

Charge can now be used in combat, though the in-combat version only gives +50% move speed for 4s, and will not make you immune to CC.

Thank you!

'Pack Hunters' (non-Shadow/non-Flayer version) now increases a target's incoming damage by 5% and reduces incoming healing by 30%.

The change from 50% to 30% won't matter much in my opinion, as nobody will be playing this line in groups when perma VT is available (and is a superior debuff), and in solo play this debuff is extremely easy to shake off.

Increased 'Scratch and Snip' Damage slightly.

Sick.

Shadow Fangs now places an effect that reduces the ability to parry by 68000 and increases induction timers by 45%.

I used to hate this, but with the new traceries, I'm not so sure.

Howl of unnerving now has a 50% chance to apply a fear debuff, reducing mitigation by 20% on up to 4 targets.

Cool, will test.

Scratch and Snip now applies two buffs when used in Shadow stance: one gives 100% crit chance on the next attack you make with your jaws, and the second gives 100% crit chance on the next attack made with your claws.

Really cool idea, doubt it will have any meaningful impact on anything, though. Does this apply to Piercing claws? I hope so, if so it may not be too bad.

Tinctures of Audacity have been removed from the game as they were artificially inflating the cost of Audacity while active on Monster Players. If you use one and then attempt to train the audacity trait you are paying a cost 5 levels higher.

What's the plan for this item moving forward?



Would like to see the following:

1. Please fix the login/Rez bug for non-VIPs. Getting sent to your milestone every log in and being unable to accept rezzes in the Moors is beyond annoying.

2. Please reduce the gear gap between T4 and T1 gear. T1 gear should be as strong as T3 gear, otherwise you're going to completely destroy the motivation for new players/alts to enjoy the Moors, especially given the commendation grind that will persist despite the infamy/comms % changes. Be kind to new players- being unskilled AND completely naked gearwise is really too much.

3. Consider future macro changes for QoL aside from class balance. Class balance is an endless war, however dealing with Maps for creeps (too many), Map adjustments (hot spots, EC/OC), dealing with store buff discrepancy, and reducing comm grind for either side lasts forever.


Thank you for being willing to take feedback, Orion!

[Daec]

Spider Weaver:

• 'Clinging Webs' miss chance debuff increased from 7% to 15%.
• 'Venomous Haze' now has a max range of 40m, and reduces player ranged skills by 15m.
• 'Lethal kiss' now deals slightly more damage at the outset, and deals ~4x that damage after ten seconds if the effect is not removed; cooldown has been increased to 10s.
• 'Grasping Webs' now has a 50% chance to break on damage.
• 'Necrosis' now reduces the resistance rating of targets by 120k.
• The trait 'Steelweave Webs' now increases the grace period of your roots to 3s.
• 'Envenom' base damage increased; bonus 20% damage for every venom pip.
• 'Shelob's Gift' reduced from a full heal to a ~1/3 heal.
• 'Feast' now restores morale on a defeat event instead of power.
• 'Poison Spray' can now be used against NPCs.
• Hatchlings:
  - Base Hatchling Health increased by 15%.
  - Strong Brood now gives +75% Health, -10% power, 5% faster attacks, +25% melee damage, +25% Critical Damage, +25% Melee Critical Hit Points, +15% Evade Rate.
  - Scytode Brood now gives +25% health, +15% power, +10% faster attack speed, -25% melee damage, +35% ranged damage, +25% critical chance, +15% melee critical hit points, +10% Evade Rate.
• New skill: Cleansing Shadows:
  - Costs 3 Venom.
  - The weaver can consume up to 3 negative tactical, song, or cry effects.
  - The weaver is healed a small amount for each effect consumed.
• 'Toxic Carapace' has been reworked slightly:
  - The effect from Toxic Carapace now tiers down over time; the starting tier depends on the number of Venom pips consumed.
  - Tier 5 effect is now -25% incoming damage, 80% reflected damage.
  - Incoming damage potency is reduced 5% per tier, and reflect potency is reduced 10% per tier.
  - Overall duration and cooldown increased slightly (25s maximum possible duration, 90s cooldown).
  - This effect is now a Corruption, meaning it can be tiered down or dispelled by the free peoples.
  - Known Issue: Toxic Carapace buff is not tiering down at the moment.

-Lethal kiss - If the change of making the end effect uncurable, this is solid, damage seems to be around 75-85k on expiration, which is nice compared to what creeps typically do but with a 274,000 - 305,000 dmg tool tip this seems a bit low? . Initial damage still seems very low at around 15k non-crit.
-Envenom - Not impressed, even with 3 ensnared and 5 venom pips this skill seems to crit for around 100k. With burning such a valuable venom generation skill at max venom to push as much damage this seems a bit underwhelming. Baseline damage increase is welcome, i expected a bit more however. Update: After a bit more testing, it doesn't seem the damage bonus from venom is applying to the skill?
-Toxic Carapace - Bug seems known? It only gives you 1 stack of the corruption no matter what venom you use it at. Additionally the -25%inc dmg doesn't seem to be applying, at least in the character sheet?
-Cleansing shadows - Very good heal, but also very situational. Will be nice vs. some classes and a wash vs. others. Would still like to see it usable at 2 venom as opposed to 3 but otherwise a very nice skill. But overall it seems to sit in a decentish place depending on the match up.
-Feast - Heal seems solid, as this is a defeat response i think it sits in a good place.
-Shelobs Gift - Heal still for ~500k, which is good, however its utility vs. feast is a bit in question. The heal doesn't really justify the trait slot anymore potentially, would be nice to see it in the 700k range on the low end due to the defeat response and trait slot requirements.
-Pet update - Ranged pet sits at around 482k health compared to 424k on live. This change does little to address the issues with the spider pet. Its baseline health needs to huge boost as well its mitigations. Didn't have a chance to test its damage.
-Necrosis - This is a huge nerf, even with the changes to creep finesse via relic/OPs. If 400k is too much i would suggest moving it into the 250,000 rating range. right now its about a 6% resist debuff if memory serves correctly.

[Seschat]

As a Yellow line Minstrel, these changes do NOT thrill me in the least!

[Hilawolf]

Quitters never win and Quit whining and fight heal for the same amount. There should be a bigger difference between the two, QnW should be raised and QwF should be lowered Cleave needs a large boost, and Black speech needs one as well. We need an increase in Finesse as well.

[Aleziana]

Well... i ll comment here for the new classes/races combinations.

I only tested dwarf wardens and they need to fix warden's cry animation on the original dwarf race.

More comments now.

I stood a little bit on the character's creation screen and i thought: What is the point of having bounds between class/races now? I mean ... i know that ssg will advertise Captain hobbits with the river-hobbits in the future its kinda obvious there but until then what is the point of the rest restriction? Since you broke the lore bounds between classes and races with the most obvious to be captain's oath breakers (what dwarves and elves have to do with oath breakers? and many more maybe) just open up every restriction because a new player who possible come from Amazon's series FOR SURE ( xD ) what will he/she think about the 1-2 restrictions left?

Can you SSG plzzzz explain to me the idea behind the restrictions you still left?

I have also suggested a better solution few months ago https://forums.lotro.com/forums/show...light=aleziana



P.S Don't refer to Beornings.

[Frappy]

Monster Play Class Changes:

• Update brings the monster player baseline stats to 480 equivalent.
• All classes get +25% base health.

This has been the problem with previous iterations of the Moors, I was hoping SSG had learnt from the previous mistakes. By yo-yo-ing the moors wildly from one side being uber-dominant to the other side, and then back again - it PUTS players right off.

There are A LOT of freep-siders with mostly 400-440 gear. A very few with 467 gear and even fewer with 470+ on every piece. BY DEFINITION those players with full 470+ are dedicated raid players as solo landscape tops out at or around 460.

By making ALL CREEPS full gear 480 equivalent it swings things wildly too far in favour of the creeps. Like a crazy amount.

It also discourages any casual PvE players from making their first explore into the moors - they will be nuked due to level difference, nuked due to gear difference, nuked due to audacity... the list goes on. It's just a mega handicap.

[WeirdJedi]

This has been the problem with previous iterations of the Moors, I was hoping SSG had learnt from the previous mistakes. By yo-yo-ing the moors wildly from one side being uber-dominant to the other side, and then back again - it PUTS players right off.

I think this is perhaps the first time I've heard someone say that the changes will matter. Seems like every time the topic comes up, there are a bunch of people going on about how all these changes won't be enough to balance the scales. It is kind of refreshing to hear in some regards. I see a lot of changes with the advancement of virtues, legendary item advancement levels, and whatever is going to be available in the mini-expansion. I also foresee some major class changes - minstrels here to begin with. As Raninia would say, I'm seeing what happens when they "flip the table" before finding out how the pieces will land.

[Elaelin]

As a Yellow line Minstrel, these changes do NOT thrill me in the least!

Just when yellow mini was becoming useful. Nothing we can do.

[Hierona]

As a Yellow line Minstrel, these changes do NOT thrill me in the least!

Well, with yellow you always go into another tree anyway, so now just take red or blue and go yellow as well. You only get more dps and HPS in return.

Personally think these changes are fine, while I would extend the range of the anthems and the Tale of Tales to 50/60m or something.
Also, think this system could also work for:
* Blue beorning;
* Red burglar;
* Blue captain;
* Blue champion;
* Blue hunter;
* Yellow guardian;
* Red loremaster;
* Red Runekeeper;
* Blue Warden;

[wispsong]

Well, with yellow you always go into another tree anyway, so now just take red or blue and go yellow as well. You only get more dps and HPS in return.

Personally think these changes are fine, while I would extend the range of the anthems and the Tale of Tales to 50/60m or something.
Also, think this system could also work for:
* Blue beorning;
* Red burglar;
* Blue captain;
* Blue champion;
* Blue hunter;
* Yellow guardian;
* Red loremaster;
* Red Runekeeper;
* Blue Warden;

Take mobility away from hunter and I will stop playing the class. Mobility is given with the line, not a trait you choose.

[theultimatekyle]

All of those posts from Orion asking for feed back on beorning, captain, hunter, and guard just became infinitely more suspicious. The passive trait line on brawler was a bad implementation of a stop gap while class -continues- to be made. Snipping away support lines on other classes will just kill what makes this game unique when compared to other MMOs. Unless you're just dying to kill lotro off, you should take some time to reconsider. This looks lazy at best, malicious design at worst.

[gildhur]

Removing the support bard archetype. Odd choice, yGuard was right there for the pruning.

That’s a real quick no. Yellow Guard is one of the most fun solo classes in the game as is. It would also be a killer group DPS/debuff line if War-chant had no threat.

[Cya_EU]

Release Notes - Beta #1:

Classes (General):

• Beorning Brutal Retribution Armour Sets now list and use a four item set bonus.
• The Brawler trait Trail Food Boost now works with Feast of Anórien and Superior Feast of Anórien.
• Brawlers will now gain the correct Battlerank modifiers when entering the Ettenmoors.
• Gave Brawler appropriate loot drops for both Library and School at Tham Mirdain.
• Captain & Warden Stout-axe Classes can now open the Stout-axe Newbie Heirloom pack.
• During Character creation:
  - Dwarf and Stout-axe characters can now choose the Captain and Warden classes.
  - Elf and High Elf characters can now choose the Burglar class.
  - Hobbit characters can now choose the Champion and Lore-master classes.
  - Man characters can now choose the Rune-keeper class.
• Burglars now start the game with two daggers equipped.
• Captains now start the game with a Two-Handed Sword.
• Warden's now start the game with a javelin equipped.

Minstrel Changes:

• Please direct your minstrel feedback here: https://forums.lotro.com/forums/show...42#post8154742
• Minstrels can no longer specialize in the ‘Protector of Song’ trait line.
• Because yellow-line can no longer be chosen as a specialization, yellow trait costs have been adjusted. In general, yellow traits only cost one point, while skill-granting traits cost two, and significant traits cost 3.
• NOTE: In case you missed this above: Upon logging into Bullroarer with a copied character, you may have a saved trait tree specializing in yellow. For now, you will need to manually click ‘Re-specialize’ in order to interact with the new traits correctly.

CALL TO GREATNESS / SONG OF AID:

• Call to Greatness:
  - Reworked Call to Greatness significantly. It now has a 7m cooldown, and resets one key class cooldown per trait tree for every fellowship or raid member within 25m.
  - There is a 2m cooldown on receiving this effect.
  - Armour set bonuses which reduce Call to Greatness cooldown changed from -45s to -60s.
  - Armour set bonus which gave Call to Greatness a chance to trigger its effects again now gives Call to Greatness a chance to reset the cooldown of Song of Aid.
• Song of Aid:
  - Song of Aid no longer grants unique, class-specific bonuses.
  - Now grants your fellowship a Heal over Time as well as reduces and reflects a portion of incoming damage.
  - The HoT effect lasts 10s; the buff reduces and reflects 15% of damage for 10s, then 5% of damage for another 15s.

ANTHEMS:

• All anthems:
  - Base buff durations reduced to 30s.
  - Anthems share a 25s cooldown.
  - Anthems no longer alter Codas (See Invigorating Anthems for these effects).
  - Anthems are only usable in combat.
  - All anthems grant a benefit to your entire fellowship or raid.
• Anthem of Third Age: Dissonance: Now gives +20% Cry and Call Damage to yourself, and +5% Light, Fire, Lightning, and Frost Damage to your group.
• Anthem of Third Age: Resonance: Now gives a less potent -Induction modifier, but gives +5% Outgoing Healing and -5% Induction Duration to your group.
• Anthem of Composure: Now grants less Tactical Mitigation, but gives 3% Shadow, Acid, and Fire Mitigation.
• Anthem of Compassion: New/returning! -1-4% Incoming Damage (formerly on Inspire Fellows) and 3% Lightning and Frost Mitigation.
• Anthem of the Free Peoples: New/returning! 1-5% inc healing and 2-10% Outgoing Damage.
• Anthem of Prowess: +5% Melee Damage, -5% Attack Duration, Agility, and 5% Orc-craft and Fell-wrought Mitigation.
• Anthem of War: Bonus to Melee Damage has been moved to Anthem of Prowess.
• The tracery 'Anthem of War Damage Buffs' now includes 'Prowess' in its name; this tracery is essentially unchanged, but the buffs modified by the tracery are split between Anthem of War and Anthem of Prowess.
• The tracery 'Anthem Duration' has had its effect halved (now +33s max).
• New Trait: Invigorating Anthems:
  - Rank 1 grants anthems a personal effect when used (formerly gained from using anthems followed by codas).
  - Ranks 2-4 reduce anthem cooldowns slightly.

CODAS:

• Coda of Fury damage increased slightly. Fellowship damage buff reduced to 1% (5% with Thunderous Codas).
• Coda of Melody buff now gives 1% resistance penetration (5% with Thunderous Codas) rather than partial BPE.
• Coda of Resonance buff reduced to 1% Incoming Healing (5% with Thunderous Codas).

STANCE-BASED SKILLS:

• Melody of Battle:
  - Reflect potency is still very small, but is now based on incoming damage.
  - Now gives a 3% Parry bonus, rather than Parry Rating.
  - New/merged trait 'Memories of Battle' adds a chance to apply a +Threat generation effect to the recipient of Melody of Battle.
• Echoes of Battle:
  - Now applies the debuff formerly on 'Timeless Echoes of Battle'.
  - Damage reduced slightly.
• Timeless Echoes of Battle:
  - Now applies a lesser version of its former debuff.
  - Damage increased slightly.
• Call to Oromë:
  - Now available in Melody stance, with reduced damage.
  - Debuff duration increased when used in Melody.
  - Reduced debuff potency when used in Dissonance.
  - Both debuffs will stack with each other and themselves, but only 2 of these debuffs can be active on a target at any time.
• Call to Fate can now be used in Melody stance.
• 'Dissonant Strike,' 'Hero's Strike,' and 'Healer's Strike' have had their damage and healing values rebalanced slightly against one another.
• Piercing Cry will now stun on critical hits and remove corruptions only in Melody stance.
• Dissonant Piercing Cry damage increased slightly.
• Major Ballad (Resonance) can now target allies, rather than healing in an AoE around the caster.

OTHER SKILLS:

• Cry of the Valar damage increased slightly, and no longer buffs your In-combat Morale Regen.
• Cry of the Wizards damage increased slightly.
• Inspire Fellows no longer grants a -1% incoming damage effect (now found on Anthem of Compassion).
• Cry of the Chorus cooldown increased from 60s to 90s.

TRAITS:

• New trait: Anthem of Compassion (Watcher of Resolve tree).
• The trait 'Improved Inspire Fellows' no longer adds damage reduction; that effect is now on Anthem of Compassion.
• New Trait: Thunderous Codas:
  - Rank 1 grants an additional effect to each coda.
  - Coda of Fury deals additional damage after a brief delay.
  - Coda of Melody has a 25% chance to reset Anthem cooldowns.
  - Coda of Resonance applies a small splash heal around your target after a brief delay.
  - Ranks 2-5 increase the fellowship-wide buffs from your Codas.
• Cry of the Valar is now a red-line set bonus, only accessible if you are specialized in the Warrior-Skald tree.
• The trait 'Fierce Cries' is now a trait in the red tree, and its potency has been increased to 20%.
• Triumphant Spirit:
  - Now a blue-line trait set bonus, only accessible if you are specialized in the Watcher of Resolve tree.
  - Triumphant Spirit now has a base 2m 45s cooldown, formerly achieved by spending another trait point on it.
• The trait 'Raise Our Spirits' has been moved to the blue tree, and will cause Raise the Spirit to apply a small AoE heal after a brief delay; its max rank has been reduced to 4.
• Trait: Word Spreads:
  - This trait has been merged with 'Strength of the Hammerhand'.
  - Rather than adding a Mastery buff, Rank 3 now increases single-target skill damage while the bubble is active. The potency of this damage buff is greatest for Song of the Hammerhand, weaker for Gift of the Hammerhand, and weakest for Legend of Helm Hammerhand, to reflect the increased number of allies affected.
• The trait 'Improved Hero's Strike' is now 'Improved Strikes' and now improves all three strike skills' Damage by up to 30% and Healing by up to 50%.
• Additional ranks in 'Perfect Performance' now also increase the duration of the buffs granted by this trait.
• The trait 'Cacophonous Timeless Echoes' is now called 'Cacophonous Echoes' as this trait improves both damaging versions of 'Echoes' as well as the red-line capstone trait 'Harsh Echoes.'
• The trait 'Of All Trades' now has 5 ranks, and its effects have been changed slightly: its max bonus is now +10% Outgoing Healing and +15% Damage.
• Increased potency of debuffs from the trait 'Strike a Chord'.
• The trait 'Sharing a Story' has been split into two separate traits:
  - 'Songs of Woe' increases ballad crit chance (1-5%).
  - 'Sharing a Story' causes Ballad criticals to reset all versions of Piercing Cry.
• Tale of Tales:
  - The Tale of Tales trait no longer grants you a passive buff aura. When traited, Tale of Tales will cause your Anthems to tier up a 30s duration raid-wide buff, increasing potency and granting additional bonuses each time it tiers up.
• The Tale of Tales effect will grant you bonus Fate, Resistance, Finesse, Critical Rating, and Vitality at the highest tier.
• Still as Death duration reduced to 10s.
• Tracery 'Still as Death Cooldown' now reduces the Still as Death cooldown by 48-66s (depending on rarity).

REMOVED:

• Protector of Song:
  - The trait 'Shield Focus' is no longer available.
  - The corresponding skill 'Shield Focus' has been removed.
  - The trait 'Shielding Cry' has been removed.
  - The trait 'Improved Coda of Melody' has been removed.
  - The skill 'Anthem of the Third Age: Melody' and its associated traits have been removed.
  - The trait 'Improved Call of the Second Age' has been removed.
• Watcher of Resolve:
  - The trait 'Resolute' (Block Rating) has been removed.
  - The trait 'Inspiring Cries and Calls' has been removed.

Monster Play Class Changes:

• Update brings the monster player baseline stats to 480 equivalent.
• All classes get +25% base health.
• Reaver: +5% Base Melee Damage.
• Defiler: +5% Base Melee Damage, +5% Base Magic Damage.
• Blackarrow: +5 Base Melee and Ranged Damage.
• Warleader: +10% Base Melee Damage and +10% Base Tactical Damage.
• Stalker: +5% to Base Melee Damage +15% to Base Tactical Damage.
• Weaver: +5% to Base Melee Damage.

Orc Reaver:

• 'Time-Out' now cleanses 3 negative effects and briefly reduces both outgoing and incoming damage, rather than restoring power.
• The trait 'Improved Jagged Cut' now also slightly increases potency of bleeds from Lacerate and Mutilation.
• New Trait: Double-edged Blades:
  - Adds a chance for Sudden Strikes, Ravage, and Devastating Strike to tier up a Corruption buff on the Reaver, causing you to take +2% Incoming Damage, but deal +8% Skill Damage per tier (5 tiers max).
  - 15% chance to receive the effect for each strike made from each of these skills.
  - This effect is a Corruption, and can be tiered down or dispelled by the free peoples.
• Resilience now provides a 10s immunity to roots and slows on a 40s cooldown and breaks all CC.
• Enhanced Resilience extends the duration of immunity to 15s and extends CC immunity to all forms of CC for the duration.
• Blinding Dust now increases miss chance by 40% for 30s hitting up to 4 targets on a 15s cooldown - this remains a wound ability.
• Sundering Blow now reduces the armor of the target by 168k for 60s.
• Thrash Wound has its damage increased for the DoT.
• Blade Toss now slows the target by 20% for 15s.
• Enhanced Blade Toss now has a +50% chance to knock the target down and increases the potency of the slow debuff to 40%.
• Upper Hand now has a 15s reduction of B/P/E by 120k on a target, increased self-armor for 20s and adds a Corruption to the Reaver, which gives +50% chance that Blade Toss will knock a target down.
• Enhanced Upper Hand now causes the Upper Hand corruption effect to decrease active cooldowns when using damaging skills (Skills affected by the corruption cooldown effect are: Sundering Blow, Blinding Dust, Disarm, Severing Strike, Blade Toss, Impale, Devastating Strike, and Mutilation).
• Charge can now be used in combat, though the in-combat version only gives +50% move speed for 4s, and will not make you immune to CC.
• Devastating Strike now has a 15s/8s cooldown and a threshold require of 33%/50 for the differing variants decreases the incoming healing on a target for 8s and increases the damage done by 150% and 250% for the normal and enhanced version respectively.
• Added a Physical/Wound cleanse to Blood Lust, which increases the potency of the buff for each effect cleansed, at the cost of morale.
• Minor tweak to the angle of the Jagged Cut AoE arc.

Orc Defiler:

• The trait 'Enhanced Curse of Sticky Feet' now reduces Fire Mitigation and an appropriate amount of Tactical Mitigation for level 140; however, the debuff is now a cleansable wound effect.
• 'Anointing of the Slick Flesh' now removes up to three Physical or Tactical effects.
• 'Constant Pain' now deals significantly more damage and significantly less healing.
• 'Curse of the Lethargic Heart' debuff potency increased slightly.
• 'Curse of Deadly Sorrows' now reduces an opponent's Fate, Tactical Mastery, Armour Value, Resistance, and and Finesse.
• 'Curse of the Melancholic Heart' now reduces Outgoing Healing by 50% (from 25%).
• 'Gooey Gourd' now increases Skill Inductions by 100% (from 20%) but is now a cleansable poison effect.
• Summoned Flies improvements:
  - Regular summoned flies from 'Plague of Flies' now last 10s and deal much less damage, but have more morale, and significantly increased evade chance.
  - When traited, Improved flies now last 20s (down from 30s) but have a greater miss chance debuff, more morale, and even greater evade chance.
• 'Efflorescence' induction increased from 1s to 2s.
• Morale cost of Fell Sacrifice increased to 2% of max morale.
• Gourd skills base inductions increased to 2.5s.
• New stance: 'Curse-shouter':
  - Reduces outgoing healing and increases damage.
  - Reduces inductions of Gourd and Curse skills.
  - Disables 'Efflorescence'.
  - Alters 'Fungal Bloom'.
  - Reduced healing, increased cooldown.
  - Applies a 30s buff 'Poison Bloom' which increases potency of Damage over Time effects.
  - 'Fell Restoration' becomes 'Doom of the North':
  - Doom of the North deals Frost damage and applies a Fear that counts down for 5s before dealing significant Frost damage to the target. If cleansed, the effect deals significantly less damage.
  - 'Fungal Spores' becomes 'Stinging Spores':
  - Stinging Spores deals a small amount of Acid Damage, as well as Acid Damage over Time, and stacks up to 3 times on a target.
• New stance: 'Herb-tender':
  - Increases healing and decreases damage.
  - Healing skills gain the ability to tier up the 'Invigorated' Corruption effect on allies, increasing damage, reducing attack speed, and increasing incoming healing.
  - Curses become Boon skills which apply Corruption buffs to allies.
  - 'Curse of the Lethargic Heart' becomes 'Boon of the Blackened Heart':
  - +15% Damage dealt
  - 'Curse of Rotten Flesh' becomes 'Boon of Toxic Flesh':
  - -10% Incoming Damage
  - 'Curse of Deadly Sorrows' becomes 'Boon of the Battle-scarred':
  - Increases Armour, Beleriand Mitigation, Light Mitigation, and Resistance Rating
• Fixed some out of date & incorrect tooltips.

Uruk Blackarrow:

• New Corruption buff: Stand Tall:
  - Gives +5% Skill Damage, +2 Max Range, and -3% Induction Duration per tier.
  - Tiers up to a max of 3 (15% Damage, 6 Range, -10% Inductions).
  - 15s Duration.
  - This effect is a Corruption, and can thus be dispelled by the free peoples.
• 'Centre' is once again a channeled skill:
  - Tiers up Stand Tall every 1.5s while channeling.
  - Fixed negative Power scaling on Centre.
• 'Vital Target' and 'Improved Vital Target' will add one tier of Stand Tall.
• Steadfast Barrage increases range to 40m and deals more damage per tick and channels for 6 seconds. Cooldown now 20s.
• Improved Steadfast Barrage gives a chance to crit and increases damage per tick and channels for 8 seconds. Cooldown now 20s.

Uruk Warleader:

• 'Command Post' now increases all masteries by 25%.
• 'Banner of Terror' now also includes a Level of Dread when it is summoned.
• 'Banner of Horror' now also includes three levels of Dread when it is summoned.
• 'Menacing Roar' range increased to 20m and total targets increased to 6.
• 'Black Speech' damage increased.
• 'Cleave' damage increased slightly, and is now a small AoE, dealing damage to up to 3 targets.
• 'Fracture' damage increased considerably.
• The trait 'Damage Boost' trait now grants +25% damage, rather than 3%.
• The trait 'Empowering' now has a Tactical Mastery value appropriate for level 140 and its In-combat Power Regen has been changed to Resistance Rating.
• 'Purge' no longer breaks allies out of stealth.
• When traited, 'Purge' now grants 6s of immunity to CC.
• Skill Fracture now applies its effect regardless of the damage hitting the player when the trait Power of Fear is traited.
• Reduce healing induction by 15% on the trait Harsh Language.

Spider Weaver:

• 'Clinging Webs' miss chance debuff increased from 7% to 15%.
• 'Venomous Haze' now has a max range of 40m, and reduces player ranged skills by 15m.
• 'Lethal kiss' now deals slightly more damage at the outset, and deals ~4x that damage after ten seconds if the effect is not removed; cooldown has been increased to 10s.
• 'Grasping Webs' now has a 50% chance to break on damage.
• 'Necrosis' now reduces the resistance rating of targets by 120k.
• The trait 'Steelweave Webs' now increases the grace period of your roots to 3s.
• 'Envenom' base damage increased; bonus 20% damage for every venom pip.
• 'Shelob's Gift' reduced from a full heal to a ~1/3 heal.
• 'Feast' now restores morale on a defeat event instead of power.
• 'Poison Spray' can now be used against NPCs.
• Hatchlings:
  - Base Hatchling Health increased by 15%.
  - Strong Brood now gives +75% Health, -10% power, 5% faster attacks, +25% melee damage, +25% Critical Damage, +25% Melee Critical Hit Points, +15% Evade Rate.
  - Scytode Brood now gives +25% health, +15% power, +10% faster attack speed, -25% melee damage, +35% ranged damage, +25% critical chance, +15% melee critical hit points, +10% Evade Rate.
• New skill: Cleansing Shadows:
  - Costs 3 Venom.
  - The weaver can consume up to 3 negative tactical, song, or cry effects.
  - The weaver is healed a small amount for each effect consumed.
• 'Toxic Carapace' has been reworked slightly:
  - The effect from Toxic Carapace now tiers down over time; the starting tier depends on the number of Venom pips consumed.
  - Tier 5 effect is now -25% incoming damage, 80% reflected damage.
  - Incoming damage potency is reduced 5% per tier, and reflect potency is reduced 10% per tier.
  - Overall duration and cooldown increased slightly (25s maximum possible duration, 90s cooldown).
  - This effect is now a Corruption, meaning it can be tiered down or dispelled by the free peoples.
  - Known Issue: Toxic Carapace buff is not tiering down at the moment.

Warg Stalker:

• Flayer stance:
  - Flayer Bubble is now 7% of max health.
  - Improved Flayer Armour & Mit buffs rolled into regular flayer buff; Improved Flayer Trait now gives -10% incoming melee/ranged damage, +5% Beleriand Mitigation, and +20% Threat.
  - Ending or cancelling Pack Flayers' root will no longer dispel Flayer bubble.
• 'Pack Hunters' (non-Shadow/non-Flayer version) now increases a target's incoming damage by 5% and reduces incoming healing by 30%.
• 'Shadow Pack' now reduces incoming healing by 25%; 10% after leaving the debuff area.
• 'Improved Rallying Howl' Damage buff lasts 25s, rather than 15s.
• Baseline 'Stealth' no longer reduces movement speed, but base Stealth level has been decreased by 3.
• The trait 'Improved Stealth' now increases stealthed movement speed 5%, Increases Stealth level by 7, and increases Critical Chance of attacks from stealth by 10%.
• Reduced 'Bestial Claws' Damage slightly.
• Increased 'Scratch and Snip' Damage slightly.
• Added minor damage to the initial skill hits of 'Crippling Bite' and all versions of 'Savage Fangs.'
• Shadow Fangs now places an effect that reduces the ability to parry by 68000 and increases induction timers by 45%.
• Snap! now reduces the target's damage by 10% for 30s (this is a multiplicative reduction).
• Flea Bitten now applies an initial interrupt and then a pulsing interrupt on the target that lasts for 15 seconds pulsing every five seconds.
• Howl of unnerving now has a 50% chance to apply a fear debuff, reducing mitigation by 20% on up to 4 targets.
• Brutal Fangs(Flayer Stance) now reduces Block, Parry, and Evade by 25% and, when scoring a Brute bonus hit decreases armor by 25% for 45s.
• Pounce/Sudden Pounce now applies a corruption to the warg increasing the damage of "Fang" by 150% for 24s.
• Scratch and Snip now applies two buffs when used in Shadow stance: one gives 100% crit chance on the next attack you make with your jaws, and the second gives 100% crit chance on the next attack made with your claws.
• In Flayer stance, Swipe now adds a corruption to the warg increasing the chance to land "Brute" effects by 50%.
• Howl of the Unnerving base BPE debuff now only stacks 2 times on a player.

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Really like the upcoming changes, even the Minstrel ones, as I play Minstrel a lot. Why does main trait cost 3 though and not 2? Makes no sense, make it 2 like brawler and it will be fine (unless I have misunderstood). And like others have mentioned creep 480 item stats is a bit much, 465 is enough imo. Looking forward to testing these.

[Leonid3703]

- Hobbit characters can now choose the Champion and Lore-master classes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ7mICJFXhI

Portrait frame laso bugged
Also not full animation for power of knowledge for hobbit
Also not full animation for test of will for hobbit

[Askelin]

This has been the problem with previous iterations of the Moors, I was hoping SSG had learnt from the previous mistakes. By yo-yo-ing the moors wildly from one side being uber-dominant to the other side, and then back again - it PUTS players right off.

There are A LOT of freep-siders with mostly 400-440 gear. A very few with 467 gear and even fewer with 470+ on every piece. BY DEFINITION those players with full 470+ are dedicated raid players as solo landscape tops out at or around 460.

By making ALL CREEPS full gear 480 equivalent it swings things wildly too far in favour of the creeps. Like a crazy amount.

It also discourages any casual PvE players from making their first explore into the moors - they will be nuked due to level difference, nuked due to gear difference, nuked due to audacity... the list goes on. It's just a mega handicap.

You do realize that there's pvp armour for freepside... Specifically to counter the problem you mentioned... Right?
Tbh if they made it so that t1 pvp gear wasn't so awful and made it so that the new creep experience wasn't so awful it would be a lot more appealing for more casual players but it's clear that there are some people who simply won't ever vibe with the moors.
Creeps needed a bump in their base stats for a long time. This is getting closer to some balance. There's still a ways to go but this is ultimately a good step in the right direction, bringing some nice utility and extra mechanics to creep classes which also makes them more engaging as a pvp class.

Trust me. It's not as if creeps suddenly got the equivilant of ilvl 480 gear in stats. That's not how it works. Their baseline stats got a slight bump *in order to compete against* the new t4 gear that came out + the increased ilvl of LIs. The idea originally was to scale creeps up incrementally with the increase of power of freeps. We are just several updates behind and we're getting a little catchup now so that it may be on a slightly more even playing field. As it has been pretty steep in the freeps'favour for quite some time. This won't make a world of difference and it certainly won't make creeps OP. But it should help give creeps more to work with. More utility is great!

[Frisco]

- Hobbit characters can now choose the Champion and Lore-master classes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ7mICJFXhI

Portrait frame laso bugged

Love it, but Hobbit Champions should be given the 2H club passive, as well as Great Club LI. Both for the racial damage bonus and so I can pretend I'm Bullroarer Took.

[EpicRunekeeper18]

Attempted to use the link on the other dev post that has the download link for Bullroarer, clicked on it and it loads a tab for like 0.5 seconds and then just closes instantly, not initiating a download. What should I do?

[Daec]

Attempted to use the link on the other dev post that has the download link for Bullroarer, clicked on it and it loads a tab for like 0.5 seconds and then just closes instantly, not initiating a download. What should I do?

copy/paste the link into your browser, hit enter.

[Spilo]

Overall Macro/Meta Feedback- will repeat what I said above:

1. Please fix the login/Rez bug for non-VIPs. Getting sent to your milestone every log in and being unable to accept rezzes in the Moors is beyond annoying.

2. Please reduce the gear gap between T4 and T1 gear. T1 gear should be as strong as T3 gear, otherwise you're going to completely destroy the motivation for new players/alts to enjoy the Moors, especially given the commendation grind that will persist despite the infamy/comms % changes. Be kind to new players- being unskilled AND completely naked gearwise is really too much.

3. Consider future macro changes for QoL aside from class balance. Class balance is an endless war, however dealing with Maps for creeps (too many), Map adjustments (hot spots, EC/OC), dealing with store buff discrepancy, and reducing comm grind for either side lasts forever.


--- Feedback specifically from Beta:

Creeps need more options with inc damage/mitigation debuffs, specifically Reavers, Spiders, and Wargs. All this excitement, but aside from the inc heal debuff stacking, Creep damage increased only slightly over live (which is fine) and options to debuffs Freep damage stayed essentially the same (which is not fine).

Reconsider some of the immediate adjustments (Reaver/Warg). Disarm, Howl, Sprint, and Charge lose a huge chunk of their usefulness by not being immediate- it makes rotations clunkier and hurts their utility as well. Blood of Fire change makes sense- not the other ones.

Regarding the inc-heal debuff stacking... I think it's a cool idea, and the only significant change to Creep group play with all these changes, however you may need to adjust the numbers on a few things. Puddle stacking with itself with inc-heal debuff is probably too much (the mit stacking is fine, but the inc heal stacking may not be), and VT stacking with everything else is sort of cheesy (it's a brainless and easy inc heal debuff that now can stack with any other debuff). Preventing the Puddle inc heal debuff from stacking and nerfing VT to 25% inc heal debuff would be a good start, in my opinion IF Creep get other debuff options (as requested above).

Base stat buffs are cool, but nerf corruptions! Spoke about this with one of your devs already, but would be thrilled if traiting 4 Pmits didn't take me from 38% mits to 70% pmits- that's such a ridiculous variance considering Creeps cannot reasonably have balanced builds (it's not fun for either side, either you're overstacked or understacked). Freeps, even if they tried their darndest, cannot come even close to this level of variance with their essence gear.

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WARG FEEDBACK:

Ok, so a lot to unpack here. The TLDR is damage distribution is looking pretty solid compared to live, but is clunky in aspects. The immediate change sucks, and Shadow wargs probably still need more utility APART from interrupt spam.


Bestial Claws: Damage output looks fine now- weaker than live even after the overall stats/damage buff, overall percentage drops from (ballpark estimate) 45-50% of warg damage to 30-40%. Good stuff.

Scratch and Snip: Cool change with this- would be a lot cooler if the autocrit applied to Piercing claws. Damage output is reasonable given its new utility.

Swipe: Flayer change is nice, no complaints, but should consider buffing this skill's damage a little.

Rend: Would love this skill to receive some love, specifically my suggestion with the tiering 5% inc damage (5, to 10, to 15, and maybe even 20% on subsequent uses). If not, it certainly needs to do a little more damage.

Maul/Piercing Claws/Tendon Shred/Crippling Bite/Throat Rip: Totally fine.

Frenzy: Would love this to be a mitigation buff for the Warg, although maybe that'd be broken with Flayer...

Shadow Fangs: THIS IS BUGGED, IT IS 25% NOT 45% LIKE IT SAYS IN NOTES... otherwise- damage component is fine, bleed is fine- at first I thought the induction debuff was too much, but after the new traceries, I think it's fine as long as we deal with...

Eye Gouge/Fleas: Same feedback I gave earlier- too many interrupts. Either completely useless or completely broken- either it's an inductionless class or gets cleansed OR it's completely busted. Do NOT touch Eye Gouge as an immdiate/CD, but if you can separate it from the interrupt component (internal CD) and rework Fleas into something else, that'd be great.

Rabid Bite/Fleas: Putting Fleas in here again, as I really don't know what to do with either of these skills. Some form of debuff tied to these would be nice, maybe keep Fleas AoE and removable, and make Rabid bite unremoveable but not power cost debuff related- not sure. Actually, what if we tied some sort of self sustain into Rabid bite when comboed with Crippling bite debuff? Sort of like a morale Tap from Warden that was increased in Shadow stance. Fleas could leave as 25% induction and attack duration.

Rallying Howl: Seems ok, don't really think increasing the duration was that big of a deal, but maybe it helps a little with group utility.

Pounce: Double damage and buffing Bite skills from stealth was... unexpected, but seems ok. There's a bug where Scratch and Snip buff only applies to the first hit of pounce which should be fixed.

Snap!: Very sad- I'm not sure what adjustments were made, but this skill is still not working- it is not multiplicative in the literal sense. I tested this multiple different times different ways, and it around 3-5% of a debuff, which is only slightly better than what it is on Live. In addition, this skill needs a damage component like the other debuff skills.

Howl of Unnerving: Also sad- the debuff was too strong but really did not last long enough (the 50% chance of application also really leaves a bad taste in your mouth). 5s duration on a 20% mit debuff that has a 50% chance of applying but, wait, just kidding, it goes through FEAR resist, which is always absurdly high on Freeps from Muster Courage (so gonna get resisted even in the off chance it does apply... for 5s, and assuming it doesn't get instantly cleared).

Pack Hunters/Puddle: Stanceless is cool, range just sucks (3.5m is impossible to keep up). Shadow is fine (didn't know we were keeping the mit debuff but hey), but puddle stacking with itself may be a wee bit broken for the inc heal debuff.

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Flayer:

I did not test Flayer extensively, but I did test a few things:

1. Seems unbelievably tanky and still does good damage compared to Shadow (benefits a lot from the etc skills being boosted and Bestial Claws being nerfed did not affect it). The 5% Beleriand damage goes OVER cap which allows Flayer to reach 75% Beleriand mits

2. Brutal Fangs armor debuff ends up being around 2% mits- should be upped to 5%.

Stanceless:

Always been a bit of a meme, but I do have one thought here- the Pack Hunters change could be pretty cool IF you increased the range of it to 7m- otherwise it falls off at the slightest movement on the target and becomes entirely useless.
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Overall:

Snap!/Fleas/Rabid Bite/Howl of Unnerving need looking at, some bugs to address with Scratch and Snip/Pounce/Shadow Fangs, Sprint/Howl immediates need to be reverted.
Flayer may need some adjustments with better debuffs/less tankines- 2% mit debuff and BPE debuffs isn't much.
Shadow needs a little more utility considering it took a big damage hit from live, perhaps buffing skills like Rend/Swipe in shadow would help as well.

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ETC observations:

Tact mit corruptions were not buffed during the update, but the Resist amount was, not saying this is bad or good, just reporting
BPE in the Pmit corruptions stayed the same, just reporting
For Warg, Foe of the Light and Armor boost were the only racials buffed, the rest stayed the same, just reporting.

[Detective0]

cool changes so far for pvp can't wait to test them out.
1 thing to add though while you are adjusting wargs, please remove the "interrupt" part from eye rake. having an interrupt skill on a 3 seconds skill while have another skills that also apply induction debuffs is kinda stupid but oh well we have champion sprint as well so

[Daec]

Orc Defiler:

• The trait 'Enhanced Curse of Sticky Feet' now reduces Fire Mitigation and an appropriate amount of Tactical Mitigation for level 140; however, the debuff is now a cleansable wound effect.
• 'Anointing of the Slick Flesh' now removes up to three Physical or Tactical effects.
• 'Constant Pain' now deals significantly more damage and significantly less healing.
• 'Curse of the Lethargic Heart' debuff potency increased slightly.
• 'Curse of Deadly Sorrows' now reduces an opponent's Fate, Tactical Mastery, Armour Value, Resistance, and and Finesse.
• 'Curse of the Melancholic Heart' now reduces Outgoing Healing by 50% (from 25%).
• 'Gooey Gourd' now increases Skill Inductions by 100% (from 20%) but is now a cleansable poison effect.
• Summoned Flies improvements:
  - Regular summoned flies from 'Plague of Flies' now last 10s and deal much less damage, but have more morale, and significantly increased evade chance.
  - When traited, Improved flies now last 20s (down from 30s) but have a greater miss chance debuff, more morale, and even greater evade chance.
• 'Efflorescence' induction increased from 1s to 2s.
• Morale cost of Fell Sacrifice increased to 2% of max morale.
• Gourd skills base inductions increased to 2.5s.
• New stance: 'Curse-shouter':
  - Reduces outgoing healing and increases damage.
  - Reduces inductions of Gourd and Curse skills.
  - Disables 'Efflorescence'.
  - Alters 'Fungal Bloom'.
  - Reduced healing, increased cooldown.
  - Applies a 30s buff 'Poison Bloom' which increases potency of Damage over Time effects.
  - 'Fell Restoration' becomes 'Doom of the North':
  - Doom of the North deals Frost damage and applies a Fear that counts down for 5s before dealing significant Frost damage to the target. If cleansed, the effect deals significantly less damage.
  - 'Fungal Spores' becomes 'Stinging Spores':
  - Stinging Spores deals a small amount of Acid Damage, as well as Acid Damage over Time, and stacks up to 3 times on a target.
• New stance: 'Herb-tender':
  - Increases healing and decreases damage.
  - Healing skills gain the ability to tier up the 'Invigorated' Corruption effect on allies, increasing damage, reducing attack speed, and increasing incoming healing.
  - Curses become Boon skills which apply Corruption buffs to allies.
  - 'Curse of the Lethargic Heart' becomes 'Boon of the Blackened Heart':
  - +15% Damage dealt
  - 'Curse of Rotten Flesh' becomes 'Boon of Toxic Flesh':
  - -10% Incoming Damage
  - 'Curse of Deadly Sorrows' becomes 'Boon of the Battle-scarred':
  - Increases Armour, Beleriand Mitigation, Light Mitigation, and Resistance Rating
• Fixed some out of date & incorrect tooltips.

Defiler feedback, a lot of this will mirror one of my previous posts in the MP forums, but after seeing the changes on BR, i've added some additional in.

Herb-tender: Seems in a good spot on for it's intended purpose, the boons, heals, and RNG corruption it applies are all nice for various reasons. The boon induction time seems a bit long, but this really depends on the pace of combat over all.

Curse-shouter: Overall its nice defilers finally got a DPS stance. The DPS in it seems a slightly on the low side, and i don't think the defiler will do enough damage to overcome any freep classes' self healing. A small bump here would be helpful.

Curses/gourds (curse-shouter): The fact gourd skills have inductions (0.5s) is a huge hinderance and overall makes the class feel awful to play. Make both curses and gourds usable on the move with no induction. The skills themselves are nice however with the little bit of messing around i did.

Also the power to drop curse-shouter stance and throw your full heals/hots (as stanceless) is very powerful and will make the defiler almost unkillable (granted they won't be killing much either). Adjust the damage in curse-shouter upwards and add a tail debuff (-50% healing) somewhere between 8-15s to exiting curse-shouter like minstrel warspeech used to have.

Make the Curse of the Sticky Feet worth something, at least in curse-shouter. Perhaps the stance modifies the skill (along with the trait) to be a 30-40% slow total.

Plague flies: For an AoE 25% ranged miss chance, and a 10% general miss chance the evade on the flies is actually insane, it will definitely keep them alive and make them useful in group/raid fights, but it seems a bit too high for melee/ranged (the ones its hindering) to get rid of. They're swarm level mobs so i'm assuming mits are low, but in 1v1 testing they've expired before champs have been able to kill them. Raid situation rks/lms/minis should be able to dispatch them relatively easy.