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    Update 16 Beta 2 Release Notes – PRELIMINARY AND NON-FINAL - BULLROARER ONLY

    The following release notes are for the Bullroarer public test server only and may not reflect the final list of changes or updates included at release.

    These notes are not final and should be viewed as a work in progress and subject to change.

    Due to the method of gathering information for the patch notes, there may be duplicate/similar entries or topics that are not included.


    The Eyes and Guard Tavern is now open!
    Please note you will also not be able to advance class and race traits for Beornings at this time.

    Important Note: Given the scope of this update please be aware that the build you are seeing here is a work in progress and is by no means the finished Update 16 product. There are many items that are not yet complete or added into what you are seeing. There may also be items missing from this initial list, this is not intentional and will be added as we progress.
    You can use Character Copy to bring over an existing character from the Live servers.

    PLEASE NOTE: The New Legendary Item Imbuement system is not yet 100% complete. We did however want players to get their hands on it and give feedback as soon as possible. Most of the work that still needs to be complete is User Interface and Cosmetic, and there still may some functionality that will be adjusted or changed based on feedback.



    Imbued legendary items

    • Based on feedback, we are making the following changes:
      • Increasing the maximum amount of DPS/HPS legacy tiers to 25, up from 20. This includes other primary legacies like Champion incoming healing, Loremaster tactical damage rating, etc.
      • Lowering the number of unlockable tiers on all class legacies to 10, down from 15. This means class legacies will have 35 maximum tiers available in u16, down from 40.

    • The level bar for Imbued LI should now show IXP progress towards next time when one of the legacies will tier up.
    • You can no longer reforge Imbued LI.
    • Minstrel - Rally cooldown legacy should now properly reduce the cooldown of Rally!
    • Fixed an issue where Hunters Merciful Shot Critical Multiplier was increasing Merciful Shots Cooldown instead of decreasing it.
    • Resolved issue where Champions Fear Nothing incoming healing was vanishing at max rank.
    • Resolved issue where Champions battle frenzy Physical mastery legacy was too small. This should properly give the intended rating.


    Epic Story

    • Fixes to Bandron's Waggon and Nethadan in Lossarnach
    • Rewards for Epic Book 3, 'Voices of the Past' have been hooked up.


    Osgiliath Instances

    • Instance Finder has been updated to have buttons to look for groups for Osgiliath.
    • Osgiliath Instances should now be hooked up with the Osgiliath map
    • The Ashes and Stars quest should now advance when you play through the instances
    • Sunken Labyrinth
    • Muzgásh has relearned some of his abilities and should be more challenging on tier 1 and tier 2
    • The tier 2 challenge quest has new requirements

    Ruined City
    • Boss reset mechanics are now in for Jukotor,Thrug, and Lumithil (Lumithil's has some more refinement coming to it in the future)
    • Thrug now has some regen on him to counteract the effects of orc-on-troll violence
    • Jukotor's Fell Feint is now about half as deadly
    • Fixed an issue where Jukotor's adds get stuck in tents
    • Now you can't leap into Jukotor's camp from an illicit pack window
    • When Lumithil dies, the wraith illusion he projects dies too

    Dome of Stars
    • You can now face all three bosses, although the final two fights are still being balanced.

    Lossarnach

    • Madness of Vanyalos has been considerably shortened and streamlined
    • Vanyalos is now a better pacifist and doesn't get stuck due to combat

    MISC.
    • The "Revive Tomes" link from the "Enhance" panel in the Character Panel has been replaced with a "Virtues" link.
    • Helgrod Quest - "Raid: Storvagun the Traitor" now has a class-specific weapon available for Beornings.
    • Set Several challenge gear items and weapons to Bind on Acquire
    • Beorning - The Forest Bounder's set now has stat bonuses.
    • Mounted Combat - Skills - Favour of the Mearas no longer requires Power to use
    • Based on feedback, we are making the following changes:
      • Increasing the maximum amount of DPS/HPS legacy tiers to 25, up from 20. This includes other primary legacies like Champion incoming healing, Loremaster tactical damage rating, etc.
      • Lowering the number of unlockable tiers on all class legacies to 10, down from 15. This means class legacies will have 35 maximum tiers available in u16, down from 40.

    • The level bar for Imbued LI should now show IXP progress towards next time when one of the legacies will tier up.
    • You can no longer reforge Imbued LI.
    • Minstrel - Rally cooldown legacy should now properly reduce the cooldown of Rally!

    Eyes & Guard Tavern
    • Stars of Merit, Gift-Giver’s Brands, and East Gondor Silver Pieces can all be acquired from Rock via daily quests in the Eyes and Guard tavern basement.


    Known Issue:

    • The Ruined City instance will be closed for repairs during this Bullroarer round of testing.
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    And paying with mithril coins is still the only way to change legacy. Gj turbine, gj again.

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    If you read the Q&A with Frelorn and Jinjaah from yesterday, you will find that there will be imbued legacy replacement scrolls coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veijari View Post
    And paying with mithril coins is still the only way to change legacy. Gj turbine, gj again.

    Info about the scroll for legacy replacement was available yesterday. Surely you didn't expect to see it in today's build.

    I like the 25 hard cap in the main legacy. It won't make the 2d and 3d star lit crystal used preimbue seem wasted, and we won't have capped out immediately upon imbue.

    I will withhold comment on the new 35 cap until I see what the legacy values are.
    Last edited by Scirocco; Apr 10 2015 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scirocco View Post
    Info about the scroll for legacy replacement was available yesterday. Surely you disn't expect to see it in today's build.

    I like the 25 hard cap in the main legacy. It won't make the 2d and 3d star lit crystal used preimbue seem wasted, and we won't have capped out immediately upon imbue.

    I will withhold comment on the new 35 cap until I see what the legacy values are.
    It's obvious that people would want an alternative to MC, I don't think they just figured it out yesterday.

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    Hmmm, notes are kind of double copied about halfway down and no Legacy list. Oh Freephorn, what have you done?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veijari View Post
    And paying with mithril coins is still the only way to change legacy. Gj turbine, gj again.
    Ya, I'm not concerned about it, sounds like the new item will be called a legacy scroll of replacement. Turbine mentioned it might be from drops or barter, as well as the store.

    Also, none of the prices are finalized yet on the store option.
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    Arf ! Rally is now -262.5 instead -300

    And Healing Skills Induction Time still +10%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veijari View Post
    And paying with mithril coins is still the only way to change legacy. Gj turbine, gj again.
    There was already an "Imbued Crystal of Remembrance" in the item database when I checked around Monday or so.

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    What was the reason to drop the legacy tiers to 35 from 40?

    I'd have much preferred you lower the prices then reduce the output on the weapons.
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    [QUOTE=Gedachtnis;7348366]Hmmm, notes are kind of double copied about halfway down and no Legacy list. Oh Freephorn, what have you done?!

    Due to the method of gathering information for the patch notes, there may be duplicate/similar entries or topics that are not included.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillymala View Post
    What was the reason to drop the legacy tiers to 35 from 40?

    I'd have much preferred you lower the prices then reduce the output on the weapons.
    The strength of legacies was decreased but the base DPS/Rating can be higher now/take more Star-lits. The net effect is a buff when maxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitewhimsy View Post
    The strength of legacies was decreased but the base DPS/Rating can be higher now/take more Star-lits. The net effect is a buff when maxed.
    Yes but you can only adjust the dps output by adding star lits for another 5 levels.
    The legacies are why I max my weapons out, not the raw dps.

    How will additional levels of dps affect my healing Rune keeper stone?
    Legacies are far more important in that aspect.
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    [QUOTE=mjk47;7348398]
    Quote Originally Posted by Gedachtnis View Post
    Hmmm, notes are kind of double copied about halfway down and no Legacy list. Oh Freephorn, what have you done?!

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    I'm guessing you missed the joke and question about the Legacy List. But thanks for pointing out common knowledge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frelorn View Post
    Imbued legendary items

    • Based on feedback, we are making the following changes:
      • Increasing the maximum amount of DPS/HPS legacy tiers to 25, up from 20. This includes other primary legacies like Champion incoming healing, Loremaster tactical damage rating, etc.
      • Lowering the number of unlockable tiers on all class legacies to 10, down from 15. This means class legacies will have 35 maximum tiers available in u16, down from 40.

    • The level bar for Imbued LI should now show IXP progress towards next time when one of the legacies will tier up.
    • You can no longer reforge Imbued LI.
    • Minstrel - Rally cooldown legacy should now properly reduce the cooldown of Rally!
    • Fixed an issue where Hunters Merciful Shot Critical Multiplier was increasing Merciful Shots Cooldown instead of decreasing it.
    • Resolved issue where Champions Fear Nothing incoming healing was vanishing at max rank.
    • Resolved issue where Champions battle frenzy Physical mastery legacy was too small. This should properly give the intended rating.
    That's good progress. =)

    Now all we need are a few tiers that are level dependant, so the LI will grow with you as you level, and open the system up to anyone that has completed Book 2.1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillymala View Post
    Yes but you can only adjust the dps output by adding star lits for another 5 levels.
    The legacies are why I max my weapons out, not the raw dps.

    How will additional levels of dps affect my healing Rune keeper stone?
    Legacies are far more important in that aspect.
    Not an RK but doesn't one of your LI have that passive healing buff on it? That will increase there and if you dont bump the dps you have more going into the legacies, kindalikeish. (not as many empowerments to use)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillymala View Post
    Yes but you can only adjust the dps output by adding star lits for another 5 levels.
    The legacies are why I max my weapons out, not the raw dps.

    How will additional levels of dps affect my healing Rune keeper stone?
    Legacies are far more important in that aspect.
    33 ranks are already higher than the 9 ranks on live (which is what they will be when imbued). You act as if you're getting nerfed when you're getting buffed. If they make a skill that does 100 damage on live, then buff it to 200 damage on BR, but then scale it back to 150 damage, it's still a buff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xhiu View Post
    Not an RK but doesn't one of your LI have that passive healing buff on it? That will increase there and if you dont bump the dps you have more going into the legacies, kindalikeish. (not as many empowerments to use)

    School me
    Imbued LIs don't spend points on legacies anymore.

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    The Ruined City was removed from instance finder/the instance panel. Why was that? Didn't seem that broken to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apache140 View Post
    33 ranks are already higher than the 9 ranks on live (which is what they will be when imbued). You act as if you're getting nerfed when you're getting buffed. If they make a skill that does 100 damage on live, then buff it to 200 damage on BR, but then scale it back to 150 damage, it's still a buff.
    1. 33 tiers are what you get when your fully loaded pre imbued LI is imbued.
    2. There are only 6 tiers on Live LI's.
    3. there are currently a max of 35 tiers on imbued LI legacies
    4. It actually depends on how they spread the 35 tiers out. It is better than non imbued LI's. But yesterday the max tier was 40 so from yesterday it is a nerf.


    Imbued LIs don't spend points on legacies anymore.
    LI's never spent points on legacies. I spend points on legacies. I think you are missing something here.
    IXP runes still add to the legacy's rank. If I imbue a fully loaded LI the legacies start out at 1 of 33 or so, depending on the stuff mentioned in the OP. To raise a tier on an Legacy to get it maxed at 35 you still use empowerment scrolls. After the tier is raised you need to add xp to it either by killing stuff that grants item xp or by ixp runes. For my hunter I get a bow with dps to level and a sword. My cappy gets dps to level and on his emblem is a healing bonus. That healing bonus can be raised to 25/25 if I so desire. That requires that I pump star lit crystals into the emblem and then ixp runes when applicable. The question I was asking was, doesn't an RK have a similar LI to that of the captain's emblem? If so, raise that with SLCs and leave the stone naked... as far as maxing the rank of the dps that is. You cannot add xp to a single legacy unless it is the only one that has any room for xp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veijari View Post
    It's obvious that people would want an alternative to MC, I don't think they just figured it out yesterday.
    It's also obviously an incomplete beta system that hasn't been fully implemented, well, except to you.

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    Hm, I think the imbued LI section and the Misc section in the notes has some duplications, but oh well *shrug*

    The legacy tier down to 35, IMO, a good choice, because I believe if the imbuing system works correctly, then you will get your legacies becoming 1.3 times stronger at tier 35, and 1.5 times stronger at tier 40 (at least, it is what I saw on my hunter). I think the x1.3 boost is reasonable enough for this update. I guess we will get a 2-3 additional max tier each time Turbine releases an update.

    However, cooldown legacy seems still have problems due to the legacy cap's decrease. In order to regain full potential of a non-imbued legacy on a imbued one, we need to reach tier 40 (like Minstrel's Rally cooldown). I believe that cooldown should reach its old potential at tier 30, and there should be a secondary effect on the cooldown legacy. Or just add the cooldown straight to trait trees/passive skills, and let the cooldown legacy do something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillymala View Post
    Yes but you can only adjust the dps output by adding star lits for another 5 levels.
    The legacies are why I max my weapons out, not the raw dps.

    How will additional levels of dps affect my healing Rune keeper stone?
    Legacies are far more important in that aspect.
    I'd guess the increased Healing Rating on your bag will offset it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillymala View Post
    Yes but you can only adjust the dps output by adding star lits for another 5 levels.
    The legacies are why I max my weapons out, not the raw dps.

    How will additional levels of dps affect my healing Rune keeper stone?
    Legacies are far more important in that aspect.
    For healing, your satchel is more imporant if it has higher healing rating, which is affected by DPS tier.

    Meanwhile, for your healing rune, you can save yourself some star-lit crystals. Vice versa on your DPS satchel and rune.
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