Update 19.1 Release Notes

[Tobias_R]

Casual players should NOT have better jewellery than a raiding player.
With this change, it makes the raiding jewellery pointless. And now any casual player can get better gear than an endgame player. This should NOT happen.

They don't get 'better' gear than raiders. It's just a new way of obtaining BiS-items and every raider also has access to those new BiS-items.

Or as some raiders use to phrase it: You want the gear? Do the content.

Ironic isn't it?

Regards
/T

[Tatharil]

Glad I canceled my subscription.

Did the same, when I saw the hunter changes with U19. "Skill rotation" isn't fun anymore and Trapper of Foes was ruined.
-> Not spending money, still using servers (leveling new toons looking for a substitute for yellow hunter - there aren't many left- beorning-> too buggy, burglar... not my style, LM was ruined with HD, only yellow warden and maybe green RK left).
Well, I won't need any new regions or other shop stuff while leveling. It will take a looooong time til I have a toon at lvl 105, who needs a new questpack or scrolls etc.... if any char ever gets that high again ..... Rohan annoys me pretty fast and Epic Battles..... not looking forward to do them again for epic quest. Hmmm just realised how many things will "hinder" me to pay again, while i wrote this.

Buffing LW would have been such an easy thing....

[NickSlaughter]

Casual players should NOT have better jewellery than a raiding player.
With this change, it makes the raiding jewellery pointless. And now any casual player can get better gear than an endgame player. This should NOT happen.

exactly, we are actualy running flower fest till haleluah ...

[Harambe]

Skills

Bleeds from different Wardens now stack with each other.

Spear of Virtue and Piercing Strike still don't stack.

[Oelle]

Spear of Virtue and Piercing Strike still don't stack.

light dots are no bleeds
they did exactly what was in the notes. its not all that was wanted, but part of it^^
just like with loremasters, one fix after the other. 1 stacking skill fixed, 3 left unfixed. 1 loremaster skill/trait bug fixed, ~10 left unfixed :P ists a start.

[anderlecht]

•Flora - Incomparable Jewellery is now available at the Herbalist. This is a level 246 item with 3 sockets.

This is serious jewelry better than t2 throne by looking for flowers .The best jewelry should be in raid.

[Laerien]

• Quests of Greater North Ithilien no longer require the Far Anorien quest pack.

As one who have not bought the Far Anorien questpack due to it includes content I'm not interested to support (yet), I appreciate this. In fact it was very disappointing to find that you may be trying to force non raider people to pay a useless raid.

[Taldeen]

Just for clarification about "warden bug fixing" - we just made the test:

Unerring Strike - aka the big bleed - now stacks. Great!

All single traget light-dots - aka Spear of Virtue, Piercing Strike and Precise Strike - still do NOT STACK.

No further comment

Cheers,
Vala

GG^^

[gorma_eu]

Hey Cordovan!

Did the performance tweaks we tested on bullroarer make it into this release?

[EndlessWalker]

Thanks for killing the little endgame stuff we had.
Now we can get better jewels with harvesting stupid flowers instead of doing the raid T2C, dumbest idea ever.

This game became a garden simulator, say goodbye to all hardcore pve guild.

Yeah...but the new 3 slot does not have any mitigations. I thought Mitigations were essential for raiding. Sure you can slot one on, making it essentially the same thing as the current 2 slot, and for non-raiders.... they can slot whatever they want in that 3rd slot to suit their pve experience.

[Gandalphor]

EndlessWalker, this is not about the FI jewelry with mits, it's about raid t2c jewelry. Which has 213 stat 555 morale and 3 slots. And now landscape gives 225/589 and 3 slots.
Yes, that jewelry is also available to raiders and landscapers are not getting it exclusively for themselves, but it is absurd that "walk to this flower" content gives something that is better than what is gated behind a hard t2c content. What for? To kill the North Ithilien Hawk faster when getting more flowers?
Nobody is saying non-raiders shouldn't have good gear, but at least have the decency to put it a few levels bellow the raiding one.

[Daniyel]

EndlessWalker, this is not about the FI jewelry with mits, it's about raid t2c jewelry. Which has 213 stat 555 morale and 3 slots. And now landscape gives 225/589 and 3 slots.
Yes, that jewelry is also available to raiders and landscapers are not getting it exclusively for themselves, but it is absurd that "walk to this flower" content gives something that is better than what is gated behind a hard t2c content. What for? To kill the North Ithilien Hawk faster when getting more flowers?
Nobody is saying non-raiders shouldn't have good gear, but at least have the decency to put it a few levels bellow the raiding one.

People, i don't understand y'all are acting as if the t2c throne jewelry was the only worthwhile thing in there. There's still the best essence armour in game (And it better frigging stay that way until next level cap at least!)
AND on TOP of the armour it has the best hunter books, captain banners, LM stickpins, Champion & Gaurdian bows, Rk-Riflers in game. period. and probably for a long time.

My point is those of you who are complaining that they took away the gear benefit of doing the raid are clearly incorrect.

Instead, I try to think of it this way:
The raiders got to use 3 slot jewelry months in advance of the pve ppl. that's special treatment for us right there.
Moreover, now everyone can get the flower armour as a new baseline - like it was back with nadhin armour at 100 cap.
players use the baseline to be able to complete Osgiliath, Pelennor, and Throne for even better and customized gear.

It is a truly sublime and perfect setup, except for the FI Jewelry vs flower jewelry debate. I've asked dozen of people and its split right down the middle. ppl say that the flower is better if you're trying to stack morale or mastery, but that featured is better for t2c. Can anyone comment on this?

Also, Cordovan: Wild Ithilien essence included? When will they be ready?! just a yes/no on by the end of the year or come u19.2 or u19.1 hotfix will do

[Despotis]

Flower gear has bigger item level than raid gear. This is the most stupid thing I've seen. Literally.

[Gandalphor]

It is a truly sublime and perfect setup, except for the FI Jewelry vs flower jewelry debate. I've asked dozen of people and its split right down the middle. ppl say that the flower is better if you're trying to stack morale or mastery, but that featured is better for t2c. Can anyone comment on this?

I usually do not use the raid (and now flower) jewelry like that. When transitioning from FI to it you make up for the mitigations you lose and the morale (drop some if you got too much in the gearing now, since some bosses don't like too much morale) and then go mastery. Which gives you a few extra slots, not sure if 2 or so.

[CaerArianrhod]

People, i don't understand y'all are acting as if the t2c throne jewelry was the only worthwhile thing in there.

Some players are acting here as petted children, if someone would have been taking their lollipop away. There is no need to understand that mimimi.
I didn't hear this outcry about changing the featured instance jewelry, turning all effort one have done in the past to get them into totally worthless gind feast for noting. That would be something everyone should cry!

Yes, there is now new fancy flower jewelry ... have fun collecting 1500 flowers! See you in a couple of months!

I've asked dozen of people and its split right down the middle. ppl say that the flower is better if you're trying to stack morale or mastery, but that featured is better for t2c. Can anyone comment on this?

If you running T2 Raid, you just don't have "one set". Instead you have gear to change, some bosses don't require much moral whereas other do, some don't require that your tactical or physical mitigation is on T2 cap. So you have gear to chage regarding the boss/mobs you fight.

[ChaChaLoco]

Did the performance improvements that were noted in the Bullroarer patch notes roll out to the live version? I didn't see any mention of those changes in the live patch notes.

~Ushrak.

[DanteIL]

[*]North Ithilien - One Massive Problem - The quest is now more specific about what is needed for the final objective.

So does this explain why, after having started this quest days ago (including following the path of the Mumak to the swamp), tonight I returned to the prisoner camp to turn in the quest, only to be given the quest *again* ("find 10 marrow-roots") as if I had never done it?


Also, my Burglar is disappointed that they still haven't added Agility medium flower armor.

[DKenny]

....Also, my Burglar is disappointed that they still haven't added Agility medium flower armor.

Actually maybe we should be grateful for Turbine's actions in making the medium flower armour worthless to hunters and burgs, and (for hunters at least) being excluded from the Throne raid. Since I didn't waste any of my flower extracts on the worthless vitality medium armour, I had enough to get a full set of jewellery that's better than Throne raid jewellery! Mind you I would still like the Throne raid armour at some point, but still saved a lot of time grinding Throne for jewellery that is now already obsolete.

[Intolerance]

Actually maybe we should be grateful for Turbine's actions in making the medium flower armour worthless to hunters and burgs, and (for hunters at least) being excluded from the Throne raid.

I actually had someone equivocate and justify the across the board Creep buffs because....Hunters and Burgs recently got a pittance buff.

Lolololololololol

[Kasius]

Is it possible that with the update yesterday the stalker lagg was implemented again?
i went to moors yesterday on reaver and everytime a stalker came out of vanish it was the same 1-2sec freez like a year(or so) ago.
thats disappointing....

[Spilo]

I actually had someone equivocate and justify the across the board Creep buffs because....Hunters and Burgs recently got a pittance buff.

Lolololololololol

You mean the 15% damage boost, the 3% morale boost, and the -3% damage taken from mitigation boosts?

[Intolerance]

You mean the 15% damage boost, the 3% morale boost, and the -3% damage taken from mitigation boosts?

Indeed.

As well as...

Mastery Corruption values have been increased by 12.5%.
Mitigation Corruption values have been increased by 30%.
Critical Defence Corruption values have been increased by 15%.
Resistance Corruption values have been increased by 10%.
Critical Rating Corruption values have been increased by 10%.

Across all classes. For doing nothing more than logging in.

Remember...I said this was a convo about these buffs being justified...because hunts and burgs got a small buff. Which, let's be honest, for hunters at least...the buff was a pittance. Dps increase for focus shots only? After how many years? I do appreciate the Purge "Poison" change though. Little light in the tunnel.

Solo hunts will still be complete Moors fodder.

But meh...I expect no different after all these years. I just keep my expectations low to lessen the disappointment.

[Intolerance]

You mean the 15% damage boost, the 3% morale boost, and the -3% damage taken from mitigation boosts?

Indeed.

As well as...

Mastery Corruption values have been increased by 12.5%.
Mitigation Corruption values have been increased by 30%.
Critical Defence Corruption values have been increased by 15%.
Resistance Corruption values have been increased by 10%.
Critical Rating Corruption values have been increased by 10%.

Across all classes. For doing nothing more than logging in.

Remember...I said this was a convo about these buffs being justified...because hunts and burgs got a small buff. Which, let's be honest, for hunters at least...the buff was a pittance. Dps increase mostly for focus shots? After how many years? I do appreciate the Purge "Poison" change though. Little light in the tunnel.

Solo hunts will still be complete Moors fodder.

But meh...I expect no different after all these years. I just keep my expectations low to lessen the disappointment.

[Spilo]

Indeed.

As well as...

Mastery Corruption values have been increased by 12.5%.
Mitigation Corruption values have been increased by 30%.
Critical Defence Corruption values have been increased by 15%.
Resistance Corruption values have been increased by 10%.
Critical Rating Corruption values have been increased by 10%.

Across all classes. For doing nothing more than logging in.

Remember...I said this was a convo about these buffs being justified...because hunts and burgs got a small buff. Which, let's be honest, for hunters at least...the buff was a pittance. Dps increase for focus shots only? After how many years? I do appreciate the Purge "Poison" change though. Little light in the tunnel.

Solo hunts will still be complete Moors fodder.

But meh...I expect no different after all these years. I just keep my expectations low to lessen the disappointment.

Every single Corruption boost was marginal (with actual contribution percentage increases I already posted). The only significant buff was the +15% damage/healing.

And actually, no, these weren't because of a Hunter/Burglar "small" buff (it, in fact, was a significant buff), this is because Freeps have had:

1. Significantly stronger gear from Pelennor and Raid
2. Strong set bonuses from Pelennor and Raid
3. Removal of Stat Cap for mastery
4. Imbued LI increase (20-30% increase in damage, depending on class)
5. Several small buffs, such as Warden Bleed stacking, Evade class essences getting buffed, etc.


That in addition to a significant buff to both Hunters and Burglars puts Creeps in a terrible position. The Creep "update" put their damage in a decent position, but Creep survivability at the moment is absolute garbage- worst it's ever been since before HD.