Premade Imbued Legendary Items

[Arnenna]

I totally get behind the anti-p2w movement against store-only options but these complaints lately are affecting those of us who actually support the game with real money (not long earned LPs) every time there's an expansion. I don't buy keys, I don't buy LI upgrades on store... I barely spend LP on some things like tomes when on sale.... and I know it's not a popular stance here in the forums, but why are we punished for spending in a way that we believe is helping a company stay solvent? I wasn't expecting a MAXED LI... and I really don't see the value in a TRASH LI (regardless of the "age" and color of the icon). I don't regret my spending. I just wish they could find some balance and not slap us across the face.

Some pay $130 for a flashy expac every couple of years, and some pay $100+ every year for a sub and still have at least base costs for expacs. The flashy expac comes with an almost fully loaded LI and the sub comes with the regular LI grind. Why are the latter punished for their regular spending in a way which also helps a company stay solvent? Why is the work done over their yearly purchases undermined by a one off purchase? These pre-loaded LIs can't end up being too cooked, because of that, and also, it brings in a new problem. What kind of LI revamp can anyone expect later (supposedly coming in 2020), when people have paid for one already in a Valar item? All we'll hear is, "can't do that, I paid money for my upgrade when I bought my Valar", and hence, they'll refuse to undermine that next time they even look at possibilities.

Buying blind, an unseen product is exactly what it is, and it can often have a couple of slaps in the face come with it. I decided not to buy blind, hence, I haven't been caught out by any slaps. The Valar should come with First age items with some work done, and that's all IMO, otherwise it's too OP and too P2W. It should enable a character to step into the latest content, which is stepping into Minas Morgul landscape, and it doesn't need to be maxed for that. In fact we hear all the time how casual players do not need maxed LI's to run landscape, well . . . neither do valared characters.

Rather than just handing over a fully loaded LI, they should just give a good FA and add daily content to MM that awards the items required to upgrade it. No running back then required and it doesn't undermine anything.

[Ballie]

I think the VIPs are already in the work house, they send the child catcher out to tempt others at this time of year. Except who doesn't love a Panda? With the promise of goodies (still in development)!

[Arnenna]

I think the VIPs are already in the work house, they send the child catcher out to tempt others at this time of year. Except who doesn't love a Panda? With the promise of goodies (still in development)!

They have a long way to go to make VIP worth it. It's' worth it for players renting the content, or low level players who still have all the content ahead of them, but for players who have already bought all the content, or covered it already even if they haven't, it's really not worth paying for. Perfect example is these pre-loaded LI's. Why pay $100 a year for the LI grind, when $80 every two years will hand them to you already cooked?

Hate to say it, because my hubby is one, but lifetime is partly the reason paid VIP is kept anchored down. Everything I could pay for within a regular sub (and hence any new benefit they could apply to a sub) - he gets freely. I suppose it's best to weigh that up. Is it better to have me pay for a sub that's worth it, and he gets it free, or to stop him from getting anything from his non regular paid sub, and lose my payment for a sub because it's not worth it.

[BrodhiDDO]

So what was the official word (do we even have one?) from SSG on if these are supposed to be first age or second age weapons?

[pinlu]

agreed, need some sort of clarification from SSG also about empowerments needed, because if you are going to make us grind 350 SOE's per li , theres no point to this arias premade imbued items.

[wispsong]

agreed, need some sort of clarification from SSG also about empowerments needed, because if you are going to make us grind 350 SOE's per li , theres no point to this arias premade imbued items.

Throwing these premade ILI in the aria is not fixing the problem. They shouldn't be higher then free level capped because that should be enough to enter the new zones because that is what a lot of players have. If the xp bars are filled that is great because getting xp for all these levels is not easy either. It requires a lot of content played. You are right , players who want to participate in instances probably need higher ILIs. But why should they be free? Why shouldn't they have to deal with the same problem casual players have? The aria should not become a requirement to have a decent weapon.

They need to FIX the problem instead of heaping more and more levels on top. The problem is that ILIs grow without decent catch up in the game itself. Be it more free levels which still need to be filled with xp, cheap barters, higher drop rate in instances, landscape quest rewards...

[Ballie]

agreed, need some sort of clarification from SSG also about empowerments needed, because if you are going to make us grind 350 SOE's per li , theres no point to this arias premade imbued items.

Loaded if they want to ensure a token counter to the massively review? Undermining most of the players in the process.

[Thistleleaf]

Agreed, if SSG were to sort out the problem of acquiring SoEs then the arguement for SA or FA would be mute.
Those that want the FA would have no problem grinding out the SoEs, those that were happy with a medium levelled SA would be happy with the head start.
I have used both LIs on landscape and never had a problem, and that is the target market these are probably aimed at. Now when people are getting into instances then perhaps they want to look at how much grind there is to maxxing out their LI. If they want to get into T3 Raiding, then sure the difference of a few % and the colour of the item probably means something.