The Riddle-Game

[Bailo]

Well if Merry and Pippin is wrong I would take a shot at saying I think it could be Gandalf and Shadowfax.

Oh and womdon, good to hear someone else besides my family drinks tea

[andulinde]

Well if Merry and Pippin is wrong I would take a shot at saying I think it could be Gandalf and Shadowfax.

I'm sorry, Bailo; it is neither Merry and Pippin, nor Gandalf and Shadowfax.

I want to give another hint, but will refrain per Elvy's request.

[Silverlocket]

For Andulinde: Frodo and Sam?

And did anyone guess Womdon's latest riddle yet?

SL

[lastalliance]

here are a few more I cooked up last night: (sorry for rhyming almost every other line with the word "first" in the last one. )

We dwell under a very great king,
In us the greatest of lights once passed through,
Although after our light's rending,
And after the broken ban, we grew.

There was a gift given,
Though the owner knew not,
By one who desired,
The receiver's own to be bought,
The transaction failed,
It started a feud,
And it left the owner in a terrible mood.

Though I'm often denied the slim shape of the first,
Usually being quite wide in girth,
I'm not always so wide that I'd burst,
So I sometimes hold the slim shape of the first,
But a part of me holds the gift of the second,
And I'm more akin to the second than the first,
I am not what I would seem,
And will be revealed when things are the worst.

[Silverlocket]

I am he who led bravely to my death
Led the strongest of my kind in glory

Though those who we fell lay claim to my name
Twas for them that the battle was gory

The hammer of wrath wrang loud and true
Yet now I am but myth and story

Rog and Galdor?

[andulinde]

SL, it's not Frodo and Sam.

Ok, I managed to drum up another quatrain. This should hopefully give you a lot more to work with. I didn't like it so much with just the 2nd verse, because I wasn't giving enough context. Now, I think I rather like it.

a well-cordoned land, home to folk of small size
and champions fell with the stars in their eyes
is teeming with flesh-and-blood evil who rage
at our flashing and screaming that rattle their cage

as heirs unannounced to a valiant dream
a thinly veiled pair, we're a brilliant team --
with backs to the wall and strong courage frayed
i take up your slack while you lend your aid

Who are we?

[Silverlocket]

There was a gift given,
Though the owner knew not,
By one who desired,
The receiver's own to be bought,
The transaction failed,
It started a feud,
And it left the owner in a terrible mood.

One thing that comes to mind with this one is the Arkenstone.

SL

[Womdon]

I am he who led bravely to my death
Led the strongest of my kind in glory

Though those who we fell lay claim to my name
Twas for them that the battle was gory

The hammer of wrath wrang loud and true
Yet now I am but myth and story

Rog and Galdor?

Yes sir, you are of course correct. I was specifically referencing Rog, but I'm glad to see my riddle was solved. I was beginning to think it was a bit too vague.

[Silverlocket]

Yes sir, you are of course correct. I was specifically referencing Rog, but I'm glad to see my riddle was solved. I was beginning to think it was a bit too vague.

It's good to see more riddlers exercising their craft.

For my part, I'm just glad to be able to check out the riddle thread again. The holidays were very busy. On top of that, my job tends towards either feast or famine, and it looks like it's feast time these days.

SL

[lastalliance]

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One thing that comes to mind with this one is the Arkenstone.
SL

But of course. I expected that one to be guessed quickly. Nicely done.

[andulinde]

There was a gift given,
Though the owner knew not,
By one who desired,
The receiver's own to be bought,
The transaction failed,
It started a feud,
And it left the owner in a terrible mood.

If it's not the Arkenstone, per SL, could you mean the palantir that Wormtongue cast down at Gandalf? This would require that by "the receiver's own to be bought" you meant something like Grima wanted Gandalf to "buy it" :P; the failed transaction would be his failure to connect with Gandalf's head, and the feud is Saruman's conflict/misunderstanding (as Gandalf relates to Pippin as they ride away) with Sauron over the now-missing palantir.

[elvyen]

sneaking another quick peak at this. OMG this thread is on fire today! Oh and welcome back SL, missed ya i dont have time to do it, but could someone consolidate the unanswered riddles into a post here? I have completely lost track hehe

[Dav16]

Ok, I've got a couple of guesses ready this morning. I'm hoping at least one of them is right.

Andulinde, for your riddle I believe the answer is... Eowyn and Merry.

And Dav16, welcome to the riddle thread! I'm a relative newcomer too. I believe the answer to your riddle is... an Egg.

<crosses fingers>

Sorry for taking so long to get back on, but no. Egg is not the answer.
Hmmm, seems like I am beggining to hone my guessing ability by reading this as well, for the arkenstone came to me too, but it has already been solved apparently.

[lastalliance]

Here you go, Elvyen!

Unanswered riddle by me

Though I'm often denied the slim shape of the first,
Usually being quite wide in girth,
I'm not always so wide that I'd burst,
So I sometimes hold the slim shape of the first,
But a part of me holds the gift of the second,
And I'm more akin to the second than the first,
I am not what I would seem,
And will be revealed when things are the worst.

Unanswered riddle by dav16

I hold my fortune with no lock and no key,
Secured with no knob or no latch.
You felt joy when my fortune was heroes set free,
You are irked when my fortune is black.

Unanswered riddle by Andulinde

a well-cordoned land, home to folk of small size
and champions fell with the stars in their eyes
is teeming with flesh-and-blood evil who rage
at our flashing and screaming that rattle their cage
as heirs unannounced to a valiant dream
a thinly veiled pair, we're a brilliant team --
with backs to the wall and strong courage frayed
i take up your slack while you lend your aid

[Bailo]

I almost had a heart attack when I saw that LA, and then after reading it Gollum and Sam came to my mind for some odd reason.... Thats a riddle to ponder.

[andulinde]

I almost had a heart attack when I saw that LA, and then after reading it Gollum and Sam came to my mind for some odd reason.... Thats a riddle to ponder.

To be clear, Bailo, that's not one huge infarction-inducing riddle. LA is collecting in one post the current four unanswered riddles. LA, maybe it'd be worth editing your consolidation, with say the names of the riddle posers, for clarity.

[elvyen]

Ok the boss left at last! Now for some serious riddle-solving.

LA, thanks for the consolidation though you should put lines between the riddles so folks dont think you just wrote an enormous, intimidating riddle haha
(edit: oops just saw that explanation from andulinde above, nm hehe)

Andulinde your riddle is making me insane, I am desperate to solve it but i can't fit the peices together. ACK!! I've been struggling with it all day, even after you added the 2nd stanza

[Womdon]

Here you go, Elvyen!

We dwell under a very great king,
In us the greatest of lights once passed through,
Although after our light's rending,
And after the broken ban, we grew.

Though I'm often denied the slim shape of the first,
Usually being quite wide in girth,
I'm not always so wide that I'd burst,
So I sometimes hold the slim shape of the first,
But a part of me holds the gift of the second,
And I'm more akin to the second than the first,
I am not what I would seem,
And will be revealed when things are the worst.

Well, after taking a look at your two remaining riddles, Last Alliance, the first thing that came to mind while reading the first was the Silmarils.

The second one is certainly interesting... if you assume "the first" refers to the firstborn, then perhaps "the second" would be man, especially considering mention of their gift. Looking at it that way, the riddle seems to be describing Hobbits.

Hopefully those two guesses are at least close. My last two weren't so successful :P

[andulinde]

The second one is certainly interesting... if you assume "the first" refers to the firstborn, then perhaps "the second" would be man, especially considering mention of their gift. Looking at it that way, the riddle seems to be describing Hobbits.

Oh, that sounds very good, Womdon. I was also thinking of Elves and Men, but the "revealed when things are the worst" made me try to think of something evil, like half-orcs or somesuch. But I think the "not what I would seem" refers to their surprising resilience and resistance to evil (as opposed to just being silly, provincial gourmands, say), a strength which is revealed when things are at their worst.

[elvyen]

OK.... I did a little research and I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a guess for Andulinde's. "frayed" and "slack" kept bringing me back to rope... So... Sam had two ancestors, Andy "Roper" Gamgee, and Hobson (the gaffer's father), both rope makers. They had a rope-walk set up together in a village called Tighfield.
These two fit at least a few of the lines including the "heirs unanounced to a valiant dream" since they were unknowing ancestors of a great hero in the war of the ring- Sam. I wont bother to spell out how i think it fits most of the other lines until i find out if im even close hehe

so Roper Gamgee and Hobson Gamgee - thats my guess

whew....

[andulinde]

Andulinde your riddle is making me insane, I am desperate to solve it but i can't fit the peices together. ACK!! I've been struggling with it all day, even after you added the 2nd stanza

Here's one more clue. This is a LOTRO-specific riddle; the answer will elude you if you only think in terms of LotR lore.

[elvyen]

BAH!! ok forget my last guess then lol

back to square one

[lastalliance]

Well, after taking a look at your two remaining riddles, Last Alliance, the first thing that came to mind while reading the first was the Silmarils.

The second one is certainly interesting... if you assume "the first" refers to the firstborn, then perhaps "the second" would be man, especially considering mention of their gift. Looking at it that way, the riddle seems to be describing Hobbits.

Hopefully those two guesses are at least close. My last two weren't so successful :P

Sorry, the silmarils are incorrect.

As for my last riddle, a hobbit is what it would seem to be, but that isn't the answer. Sorry!

[Womdon]

I've been watching this thread for a little while, and it peaked my interest. So I put together a simple little riddle to throw into the mix. Bear with me, as it's my first riddle, and I'm afraid it may be a little too vague...

I hold my fortune with no lock and no key,
Secured with no knob or no latch.
You felt joy when my fortune was heroes set free,
You are irked when my fortune is black.

Heheh, I'm striking out big time with my guesses today, but I got one more left in me!

This one may sound a little silly, but is it a computer screen?

[Womdon]

Here you go, Elvyen!
Unanswered riddles by me

We dwell under a very great king,
In us the greatest of lights once passed through,
Although after our light's rending,
And after the broken ban, we grew.

Ok so I lied, I'm gonna guess again . I'm thinking the broken ban refers to the ban of the Valar, the greatest of lights is the gift of the Valar given to the Numenorians, and the light's rending is the drowning of Numenor. After the broken ban, the faithful founded the kingdom's of men in Middle Earth.

Therefore, my guess is the Faithful... or in other words, Men.