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    Sapience is offline Former Community Manager & Harbinger of Soon
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    NDA Drop Discussion

    Now that we've dropped the NDA for Moria beta players, we know you'll have many questions and Beta players will want to share their views.

    We'll be monitoring this thread and trying to address general questions as much as we can, so please feel free to post your questions and comments here!


    If you have class specific, or PvMP specific topics you'd like to discuss, please use the appropriate forums.

    Moria is fast approaching, we can't wait for everyone to experience it!

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    Now that we've dropped the NDA for Moria beta players, we know you'll have many questions and Beta players will want to share their views.

    We'll be monitoring this thread and trying to address general questions as much as we can, so please feel free to post your questions and comments here!


    If you have class specific, or PvMP specific topics you'd like to discuss, please use the appropriate forums.

    Moria is fast approaching, we can't wait for everyone to experience it!

    S.
    So no RK questions, right?

    Here's one:

    Will the new points-based system display points or percentages in the character panel? Many of us have requested that percentages be displayed with the actual points shown in a tooltip.

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    you going to open up the beta boards? pleaseeeeeeee i wanna seee
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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Both.

    You need to hover over the points to see your %.


    Next!



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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Whats the moral drain on a champions traited continuous blood rage.
    Whats the damage bonus
    What other skills have been updated
    What mods can be on legendary weapons for champs?

    Whats the link to the beta boards.
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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    The beta forums are remaining members-only for a while longer. We're still putting the finishing touches on the game and we need to maintain a place for focused feedback to continue.

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    MoM looks beautiful!

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Forjo View Post
    So no RK questions, right?

    Here's one:

    Will the new points-based system display points or percentages in the character panel? Many of us have requested that percentages be displayed with the actual points shown in a tooltip.

    -Forjo

    Gramps answered your main question, but as to Rune-keeper discussion you can try out the new Rune-keeper forums.

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    any fundamental changes to help with lag issues?

    i know that not all have it but many do.
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    Is it just me or does the icon attached to this thread on the main forum page(the same as marketroid's icon) make you think of a cylon?

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    Gramps answered your main question, but as to Rune-keeper discussion you can try out the new Rune-keeper forums.
    Actually, he didn't. The raw points are shown (last time I looked) and you have to mouse-over to see the percentages. Many people find these new stats very cumbersome and would prefer to see percentages first, with the actual points in the mouse-over tooltip.

    Has this changed in a recent build? The last time I looked it was points first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ararax2 View Post
    you going to open up the beta boards? pleaseeeeeeee i wanna seee
    They purge the beta forums like once a week it seems, so there's not much to see.
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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    It is points first, you have to hover over your points to get a base % amount
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forjo View Post
    Actually, he didn't. The raw points are shown (last time I looked) and you have to mouse-over to see the percentages. Many people find these new stats very cumbersome and would prefer to see percentages first, with the actual points in the mouse-over tooltip.

    Has this changed in a recent build? The last time I looked it was points first.

    -Forjo
    That is the same answer gramps gave.

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by emz66us68 View Post
    any fundamental changes to help with lag issues?

    i know that not all have it but many do.
    If you have client side lag related to file fragmentation (often called stuttering) then Moria should help. That stuttering is usually linked to fragmentation issues with the data files. Since most of Moria is in new data files you should see performance improvements when accessing those regions. Make sure to defragment your hard drive before installation to maximize the benefit.

    Other client issues have been addressed as well, but for people with filesystem lag, Moria should help a bit.

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Ok, quick question....

    Not including the pre-order "token" house pets, are there any other improvements to the housing system?

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    1 - Creeps > Freeps? Freeps > Creeps?

    2 - How many hunters were able to 2-3 shot Creeps?

    3 - How many feel the Rune-Keeper is laughably overpowered?

    4 - Why the nerf, I mean this is what was initially intended we only waited a year+, to BPE?

    4A - Is there any discussion on what you suggest those classes that needed BPE for survivability and opening up melee skills do? Or do we just become fodder and throw FMs every 5-minutes? Cause well, I can't evade much and with my tragically lowered HP, I won't last long and since I can't DPS out of a paper bag now, I'm not sure what I shall do. Could call the peddler and sell the white loot I burgle o.O?

    5 - Grats on renown/infamy nerf. Now, what's with that terrible math down to the renown/infamy gain for 2-6 players in a grp? I mean, 16%, really? Not 50%, 33%, etc. I guess I'll just hop in vent and run side-by-side with a fellow ally and get 50% :\.

    6 - Core grp makeup? Guard/LM/Minstrel/Burg/Champ/Hunter still or?

    7 - Instances. How are they? Difficulty? Loot drops?

    8 - Any new maces?

    9 - Crafting works like? Crafting recipes are?

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by SirBigdog01 View Post
    Ok, quick question....

    Not including the pre-order "token" house pets, are there any other improvements to the housing system?

    Details!
    No, the housing system is otherwise unchanged.

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleitanious View Post
    That is the same answer gramps gave.
    I know how things currently are (points first). My question is what will be when the game goes live.

    Points first, or percentages first?

    I didn't think it was that complex of a question; and I didn't think a definitive answer had been given. If so, please point me to the thread.

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Forjo View Post
    I know how things currently are (points first). My question is what will be when the game goes live.

    Points first, or percentages first?

    I didn't think it was that complex of a question; and I didn't think a definitive answer had been given. If so, please point me to the thread.

    -Forjo

    Points first.

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    Post Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Can anyone explain about the crafting system?
    1)Are there new Tier 6 tools?
    2)What are the new crit items? (ie beryl shards)
    3)What are the new 100% crafting Kin receipes?
    4)How do you craft a Legendary Weapon?
    5)What lvl does Tier 6 Mastery start? (ie 55, 56)

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Can we have/share/host screenshots of Moria content?
    EDIT: Nevermind, saw marketroid's post.... elsewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    Points first.
    I don't think this will change... The end result is a change in presentation more than actual meaning. In my opinion, the change to those nice big numbers is to appeal to the wider audience that Turbine is attempting to woo.



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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    Now that we've dropped the NDA for Moria beta players, we know you'll have many questions and Beta players will want to share their views.

    We'll be monitoring this thread and trying to address general questions as much as we can, so please feel free to post your questions and comments here!


    If you have class specific, or PvMP specific topics you'd like to discuss, please use the appropriate forums.

    Moria is fast approaching, we can't wait for everyone to experience it!

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    Re: NDA Drop Discussion

    Answers in Red


    1 - Creeps > Freeps? Freeps > Creeps?
    Coordination/team work > above example

    In all honesty, its closer to Freeps>Creeps then its been in a long long time.


    2 - How many hunters were able to 2-3 shot Creeps?

    Depends on the situation. Lv of hunter, legendary weapons, ranked creep, ect.

    But, it WAS possible.
    Changes have been made.


    3 - How many feel the Rune-Keeper is laughably overpowered?
    Very very few.

    4 - Why the nerf, I mean this is what was initially intended we only waited a year+, to BPE?
    It was needed. A fully buffed tank with 70% b/p/e was not acceptable. Granted that was a rare thing, but, it needed to change for the growth of the game.

    Honestly, its something you wont even notice after a few days playing with it.


    4A - Is there any discussion on what you suggest those classes that needed BPE for survivability and opening up melee skills do? Or do we just become fodder and throw FMs every 5-minutes? Cause well, I can't evade much and with my tragically lowered HP, I won't last long and since I can't DPS out of a paper bag now, I'm not sure what I shall do. Could call the peddler and sell the white loot I burgle o.O?

    You can still evade at your cappped 15% with partial evade having no cap.
    In regards to crit chains, there are ways to get more responses that dont require a crit.


    5 - Grats on renown/infamy nerf. Now, what's with that terrible math down to the renown/infamy gain for 2-6 players in a grp? I mean, 16%, really? Not 50%, 33%, etc. I guess I'll just hop in vent and run side-by-side with a fellow ally and get 50% :\.

    I have no idea

    6 - Core grp makeup? Guard/LM/Minstrel/Burg/Champ/Hunter still or?

    IMO yes. The core group has not changed. Both new classes, and all the changes to each old class, has not changed the core group.

    There are things that the new classes can bring to the table, some are great, but core group still for sure.


    7 - Instances. How are they? Difficulty? Loot drops?
    I like them.
    There are 2 low 50 3-mans, one mid-high level 50 leveling instance, and 6 -high 50-60 6-mans.

    Each of the 6 'end-game' instances have hard modes.

    Some are extremely hard, some are easy.


    8 - Any new maces?
    Lots

    9 - Crafting works like? Crafting recipes are?
    Its always worked.
    Some increadable weapons, a couple really nice jewellery recipes, but for the most part, same old same old.
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