NDA Drop Discussion

[Sapience]

No mp diary so we get to find out what you have done to pvp by word of mouth. GJ.

We're saving up all the creep lovin'! Next week will be PvMP week! Tons of info, dev diaries and information are heading your way.

There's so much info coming it's going to take most of the week to get it all out!

[Forjo]

Points first.

Sorry to hear that. Oh well, still LOTS to love in Moria.

-Forjo

[Grampsaz]

Can anyone explain about the crafting system?
1)Are there new Tier 6 tools?
2)What are the new crit items? (ie beryl shards)
3)What are the new 100% crafting Kin receipes?
4)How do you craft a Legendary Weapon?
5)What lvl does Tier 6 Mastery start? (ie 55, 56)

1-Yes
No they dont get more the 20% crit, something else exciting was done to tier 6 tools.

2-Mithril Flakes

3-They are recipes that give you a crit item. No failure, nothing, crit item everytime. they have substantual cooldowns though.

4-through crafting guild rep..you earn the recipes from rep guilds, then mats.

5-50

[gildhur]

1 - Creeps > Freeps? Freeps > Creeps?

They're equal in most respects now. Creep morale was WAY down, then went back up, then up a bit more. But it's roughly equivalent to a level 60 Freep now, I think. Unfortunately, Freep DPS is exponentially higher, but that's being looked at as well from the Creep perspective.

2 - How many hunters were able to 2-3 shot Creeps?

Well, my wife is hitting occasional 3000-4000 on devastating crits of both Heartseeker and Merciful Shot, so that's entirely possible at this point.

3 - How many feel the Rune-Keeper is laughably overpowered?

Rune-keeper and Warden are both very powerful at what they do, but I don't think either one is overpowered in the grand scheme of things. I've played both.

4 - Why the nerf, I mean this is what was initially intended we only waited a year+, to BPE?

Because we were already at 60% BEP for tanks at level 50. If gear and stats continued to improve, pretty soon some classes would very rarely get hit. So they could either make mobs hit harder so that you could still get killed by the rare hit, or they could tone our defenses down a bit. I'm more comfortable with the latter.

4A - Is there any discussion on what you suggest those classes that needed BPE for survivability and opening up melee skills do? Or do we just become fodder and throw FMs every 5-minutes? Cause well, I can't evade much and with my tragically lowered HP, I won't last long and since I can't DPS out of a paper bag now, I'm not sure what I shall do. Could call the peddler and sell the white loot I burgle o.O?

You're doing it wrong. I know Burglars who have no problem with their abilities in Moria.

6 - Core grp makeup? Guard/LM/Minstrel/Burg/Champ/Hunter still or?

Champ, Champ, Mins, Hunt, RK, Capt.

7 - Instances. How are they? Difficulty? Loot drops?

Lots of them. And lots of fun. Lots of ways to do them, so they can be simple or insanely difficult depending on your choices. Loot drops aren't outstanding in terms of traditional loot. You get one barter piece from each boss chest that's traded for a piece of several armour sets (the best comes from doing the "hard mode" of the instance). You also get LOTS of legendary item loot (item XP tokens, item legacy tokens, etc).

8 - Any new maces?

New crafting tier with lots of new recipes at 51, 54, 56, and 58. Lots of stat variety. DPS caps at 44.8 for level 58 one-shot 1H weapons.

9 - Crafting works like? Crafting recipes are?

The same. But different. Tier 6 is 600-1200 crafting points worth of mind crushing grind. New are the crafting guilds. You craft component-level rep items from Tier 3-6 of varying material requirement corresponding to varying rep points rewarded and varying cooldowns on the recipes you have to wait for. At each tier of rep (Aquaintance to Kindred) you get a tier of crafting recipes that are guaranteed crits. They still require a shard plus an extra guild token of that level, and they have a few day cooldown on the recipe, but they're essentially 100% crit one-shot recipes. From Mirrored Westernesse recipes to Peerless Thain's (T6 one-shot crits).

[aethelberht]

Eregion, Eregion, Eregion.

For everybody who wants to charge straight through into Moria, do give at least a little thought to Eregion. It's got some great scenery, some amazing "book moments," and some excellent storylines that make you feel like you're really helping the Fellowship along. And that they need all the help they can get!

At least do yourself the favor of taking the road up into Caradhras and petting a goat or two on the way!

For everybody who wants to know what the next new Hobby will be...




...





So do I. No sign of one yet.

Gads, it feels good to "breathe the free air again."

[Cleitanious]

Eregion, Eregion, Eregion.

For everybody who wants to charge straight through into Moria, do give at least a little thought to Eregion. It's got some great scenery, some amazing "book moments," and some excellent storylines that make you feel like you're really helping the Fellowship along. And that they need all the help they can get!

At least do yourself the favor of taking the road up into Caradhras and petting a goat or two on the way!

For everybody who wants to know what the next new Hobby will be...




...





So do I. No sign of one yet.

Gads, it feels good to "breathe the free air again."

Eregion, I love Eregion.

[J-TK]

Thanks Gramps, can't wait to try it out!
Anyone happen to know what the Warden/RuneKeepers Legendary class
items will be? (ie, slime, Rune of Winged dom, etc?)

[MummyLord]

We're saving up all the creep lovin'! Next week will be PvMP week! Tons of info, dev diaries and information are heading your way.

There's so much info coming it's going to take most of the week to get it all out!

Right, I'm reading about all the fun now (since alot of it is negative we only need to wait for a week to find out how true it is) so I understand why you are waiting on the info.

[meister0]

Can you dual wield Legendary Weapons?

[Cleitanious]

Can you dual wield Legendary Weapons?

no

Legendary Item Information

-Legendary Weapons can only be equipped in the main hand and Ranged slot for Hunters. Legendary weapons cannot be used in the off-hand.

-You can own and level up 6 at a time, you can enable/disable gaining experience on any/all of them from the IA (Item Advancement) panel.

-You can equip 2 Legendary items at any given time, one melee weapon and one class item (or ranged weapon in the case of the Hunter).

-Legendary Class Items are as follows
--Badges for Captains
--Buglar's Tools for Burglars
--Belts for Guardians
--Bows/Crossbows for Hunters
--Books for Lore-Masters
--Instruments for Minstrels
--Runes for Champions

-Lore Masters will not be able to use Legendary swords in their off hand, Legendary weapons will be main hand only.

-There will be no Legendary Armour, Shields, Cloaks, or Jewelry. Only Weapons and Class Items.

[Grampsaz]

Anyone happen to know what the Warden/RuneKeepers Legendary class
items will be? (ie, slime, Rune of Winged dom, etc?)

Runekeeper
weapon reward
12 misty mountain stones
archivist anraig's runes (annuminas)
10 corroded neekerbreeker horns
20 hooked warg claws
sigil of war
rune of winged dominance

jewelry reward
12 glad ereg vines
helchuan's hide (forochel)
10 rotted barghest paws
20 corrosive droplets
badge of command
ashen gorthorog horn

Warden
weapon reward
12 Invader breast plates (Annuminas)
Bryok's Spear (Forochel)
10 revered wight remains
20 gem-encrusted nails
bloodstained tally stick
crimson gorthorog horn

jewelry reward
6 hoary auroch hides (MM)
Redtusk's hide (Eregion)
10 barbed barghest tails
20 coiled spider spinnerets
Rune of evil presence
Gorthorog teeth

(or ranged weapon in the case of the Hunter).

And the warden

[aethelberht]

--Buglar's Tools for Burglars

Yes, the infamous Buglar's Tools. Sneak up on your mob, then blast "Reveille" in his ear for a massive stun/debuff. Best addition ever!

[Machineman]

I am wondering if perhaps Turbine has addressed how it handles UI scaling in the Moria expansion?

I am lucky enough to play on a 30 inch monitor, but trying to scale the interface up to something visible only results in blurry icons (since they are rasterized graphics) and items get misplaced and bumped around.

I know there are some vector/flash based UI api tools out there, I am hoping they did something!

Any info appreciated!

[arch07js1]

Runekeeper
weapon reward
12 misty mountain stones
archivist anraig's runes (annuminas)
10 corroded neekerbreeker horns
20 hooked warg claws
sigil of war
rune of winged dominance

jewelry reward
12 glad ereg vines
helchuan's hide (forochel)
10 rotted barghest paws
20 corrosive droplets
badge of command
ashen gorthorog horn

bah, i wish i could remember what i have stored in my vaults...::fingers crossed its even one of these two and id be happy::

[cedwin]

Runekeeper
weapon reward
12 misty mountain stones
archivist anraig's runes (annuminas)
10 corroded neekerbreeker horns
20 hooked warg claws
sigil of war
rune of winged dominance

jewelry reward
12 glad ereg vines
helchuan's hide (forochel)
10 rotted barghest paws
20 corrosive droplets
badge of command
ashen gorthorog horn

Warden
weapon reward
12 Invader breast plates (Annuminas)
Bryok's Spear (Forochel)
10 revered wight remains
20 gem-encrusted nails
bloodstained tally stick
crimson gorthorog horn

jewelry reward
6 hoary auroch hides (MM)
Redtusk's hide (Eregion)
10 barbed barghest tails
20 coiled spider spinnerets
Rune of evil presence
Gorthorog teeth

Thank goodness neither require Helchgam's Slime eh? :P

[bprorsum]

They're equal in most respects now. Creep morale was WAY down, then went back up, then up a bit more.

Seriously? Not surprised...

But it's roughly equivalent to a level 60 Freep now, I think. Unfortunately, Freep DPS is exponentially higher, but that's being looked at as well from the Creep perspective.

So increase in HP and damage creepside? Interesting.

You're doing it wrong. I know Burglars who have no problem with their abilities in Moria.

I didn't play Beta so couldn't be doing anything, really. Just making the assumption based on our current skillset and relative need for Evade/Crit chance.

Champ, Champ, Mins, Hunt, RK, Capt.

Even with the chance to Mob AI/HP/Damage, a tank still isn't needed when a competent Champ is present?

Thanks for the other info.

[Machineman]

No change yet. The "new UI" was announced to be coming "soon after Moria."

Oh well, I guess at least they are working on it!

[SeigneurDude]

1 - Creeps > Freeps? Freeps > Creeps?

...

Creeps auto-leveled to 60 versus level 50 freeps is a challenge for the freeps and fun for both, however, level 60 fully buffed-out, legendary-itemed freeps against level 60 creeps - well, you better rank up your creeps while the freeps level up is all I can say for now - lol...

Other than that, what npc's remain are tougher than before. There are several mob bosses that are really tough but a lot of fun to tackle.

There are some really cool new skills for creeps that round out their classes nicely, although some are only available at higher ranks like 9, so there will definitely be a drive to rank for creep players.

[gildhur]

I am wondering if perhaps Turbine has addressed how it handles UI scaling in the Moria expansion?

I am lucky enough to play on a 30 inch monitor, but trying to scale the interface up to something visible only results in blurry icons (since they are rasterized graphics) and items get misplaced and bumped around.

I know there are some vector/flash based UI api tools out there, I am hoping they did something!

Any info appreciated!

No change yet. The "new UI" was announced to be coming "soon after Moria."

[Felamid]

how about adding a legendary item forum.....

thanks in advance

[meister0]

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Great, thanks for the info. I probably should have rephrased my question as, "WIll there be Legendary Off-Hands", but didn't think of it at the time. I had seen that Wardens currently don't have a class item but they are trying to figure one out that would fit properly, which kinda seemed silly to me if they are going to have Legendary Javelins.

[Cleitanious]

Great, thanks for the info. I probably should have rephrased my question as, "WIll there be Legendary Off-Hands", but didn't think of it at the time. I had seen that Wardens currently don't have a class item but they are trying to figure one out that would fit properly, which kinda seemed silly to me if they are going to have Legendary Javelins.

No Legendary off-hand weapons.

[swisskdl]

I didn't play Beta so couldn't be doing anything, really. Just making the assumption based on our current skillset and relative need for Evade/Crit chance.

Burglar forums were quite funny in this regard actually. Everytime a new wave of invites came in, we got the new burgs logging in, looking at the stat sheet, logging into the forum, make a huge whine-fest thread, get told by previous burgs to play first then post your thoughts.

It happened everytime. And everytime the OP of the thread would end up saying they were wrong at first and burgs are still fine and basically still OP.

Things are tougher in Moria, but it's expected and more fun as a result. You might have to change your playstyle a bit, but there is no problem soloing your way to 60. You might need to use more of your skills more often, but it makes things more fun.

So burglars, please do not look at your stat sheets first and start crying that the sky fell down. Play first, you will be perfectly fine.

Burgs still rule

[gildhur]

1. Will our Rift gear be useful?

2. Can they be broken down for legendary item runes, or something?

2a. If not, at what point will I likely be replacing my Rift gear?

3. How long do the new instances take to complete? How many hours, and how long compared to CD?

1. Only until about level 54ish when the crafted stuff starts getting really good.

2. No.

2a. See 1.

3. Some, 30m, some 2h. None as long as CD/Uru, though.

[Chud26]

I know it was stated that there will be a diary next week about MP, but i'm wondering what the new skills are for the wargs? In your humblest of openion(s) are there any crazy bonuses and/or nerfs to said class? (openion is key, not needing facts)