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[Illuminatus1379]

Since she has 199 deaths means she is a star farmer.
How does a star farmer manage to obtain defiler foe? Rank 10 hunters on my server don't even have that yet. And the fact she has 17,000 kills.

Greenie Defilers are next to helpless. No one on our server cares for Zeeba. The Creeps pay him/her/it no attention because he/she/it only goes after ungrouped greenies. The Freeps don't care either because this thing will run when sneezed at.

[Arkarianor]

100% farmer stats

My warg's stats are a carbon copy of his, are you claiming I farm too? And how would a creep achieve that?

Since you have 199 deaths means you are a star farmer.
How does a star farmer manage to obtain 500 defiler kbs? Rank 10 hunters on my server don't even have that yet. And the fact you have 17,000 kills is a laugh in itself.

That's funny - I have more inf/ren than him (500,000) on my warg and I have 17k kills and 4k kbs. Please, tell me I'm a farmer too. Creeps can't farm like that. Saying he's a farmer based on a warsheet is an admittance of ignorance and stupidity.

Greenie Defilers are next to helpless. No one on our server cares for Zeeba. The Creeps pay him/her/it no attention because he/she/it only goes after ungrouped greenies. The Freeps don't care either because this thing will run when sneezed at.

Like Ice, I think you're a great player and love seeing you in the moors. However, you have a lot to learn about 'starhuggers.' Ice ran with 4.5 stars sometimes with me, and he absolutely wouldn't leave you hanging. He would come back and help just as much as someone with 400 rating would. I can't speak for Zeeba, but don't assume all people with stars are the same way. It's completely wrong. Many of my closest friends have 4-5 stars and I can count on them to put themselves in danger to help me more than someone with terrible rating.

[lutzjc]

Since you have 199 deaths means you are a star farmer.
How does a star farmer manage to obtain 500 defiler kbs? Rank 10 hunters on my server don't even have that yet. And the fact you have 17,000 kills is a laugh in itself.

umm yeah 500 defiler kbs they are kinda hard to come by but ### does it matter if rank 10 hunters dont have them on your server just means the rank 10 hunters probably suck on your server

[lutzjc]

Greenie Defilers are next to helpless. No one on our server cares for Zeeba. The Creeps pay him/her/it no attention because he/she/it only goes after ungrouped greenies. The Freeps don't care either because this thing will run when sneezed at.

ahhh man i guess raiding and just zerging and what not is better then killing ungrouped greenies because all i did when i was ranking up was kill ungrouped greenies coming right out of grams but ### does that matter i still kill any creep that comes at me wether it is a ranked warg or ranked w/e i am sure that zeeba could kill w/e he/she wanted to just because her war tab is better then yours you dont have to go on QQ ing about everything that is better then yours.. kk thxs

[IceDragon02]

Since you have 199 deaths means you are a star farmer.
How does a star farmer manage to obtain 500 defiler kbs? Rank 10 hunters on my server don't even have that yet. And the fact you have 17,000 kills is a laugh in itself.

17k kills is a laugh? Maybe he farms, maybe he doesn't. My warg went from 8k kills at r7 to 13k kills at 1/3 the way through r9, and will probably only have about 14,500/15k kills @ r10. In those 5k kills about 2.5k of them were my kb's. Are you saying I farm? Some people do actually enjoy soloing in this game, where your almost always guarenteed the KB if you win, and get 100+ renown/kill. Can't say if the person farmed or not unless you catch them, but just because someone doesn't have the same playstyle as you doesn't really make sense to troll them...

my .02c

[lutzjc]

17k kills is a laugh? Maybe he farms, maybe he doesn't. My warg went from 8k kills at r7 to 13k kills at 1/3 the way through r9, and will probably only have about 14,500/15k kills @ r10. In those 5k kills about 2.5k of them were my kb's. Are you saying I farm? Some people do actually enjoy soloing in this game, where your almost always guarenteed the KB if you win, and get 100+ renown/kill. Can't say if the person farmed or not unless you catch them, but just because someone doesn't have the same playstyle as you doesn't really make sense to troll them...

my .02c

well said

[Arkarianor]

By the way, I've grouped with Zeeba's warg briefly, and he's not a farmer, nor is he a coward.

[Illuminatus1379]

My warg's stats are a carbon copy of his, are you claiming I farm too? And how would a creep achieve that?

That's funny - I have more inf/ren than him (500,000) on my warg and I have 17k kills and 4k kbs. Please, tell me I'm a farmer too. Creeps can't farm like that. Saying he's a farmer based on a warsheet is an admittance of ignorance and stupidity.


Like Ice, I think you're a great player and love seeing you in the moors. However, you have a lot to learn about 'starhuggers.' Ice ran with 4.5 stars sometimes with me, and he absolutely wouldn't leave you hanging. He would come back and help just as much as someone with 400 rating would. I can't speak for Zeeba, but don't assume all people with stars are the same way. It's completely wrong. Many of my closest friends have 4-5 stars and I can count on them to put themselves in danger to help me more than someone with terrible rating.

From what I saw of Zeeba's playstlye, I wasn't impressed. He only went after the easiest targets and would run at the very first sign of danger. After getting 5 stars, he officially retired the toon as well. Now, do 4-5 stars automatically denote being a farmer? No. That just means you haven't died recently.

I don't hold any animosity towards him. Rather, it's that his playstyle is completely anathema to my own and that I don't respect. All that matters, really, is that he enjoyed the game the way he played it. But, unlike Ice and your other friends, he would never put himself into harm's way for any reason. To me, that's an easy-moder... not necessarily a farmer. A farmer is someone who deliberately farms 'easy' renown/infamy from another player or account. I don't know if he ever did this or not, so calling him a farmer would be unfair then.

By the way, I've grouped with Zeeba's warg briefly, and he's not a farmer, nor is he a coward.

Then he must play his warg differently from his Burg. Perception is reality, but when he transfered the Burg to Elendilmir, many including myself thought him to be a complete easy-moder. Whatever, it's just a game.

[Illuminatus1379]

ahhh man i guess raiding and just zerging and what not is better then killing ungrouped greenies because all i did when i was ranking up was kill ungrouped greenies coming right out of grams but ### does that matter i still kill any creep that comes at me wether it is a ranked warg or ranked w/e i am sure that zeeba could kill w/e he/she wanted to just because her war tab is better then yours you dont have to go on QQ ing about everything that is better then yours.. kk thxs

If you think that I'm QQ'ing or the slightest bit envious of his War-tab you're sorely mistaken. I'm quite happy with my own.

[Arkarianor]

From what I saw of Zeeba's playstlye, I wasn't impressed. He only went after the easiest targets and would run at the very first sign of danger. After getting 5 stars, he officially retired the toon as well. Now, do 4-5 stars automatically denote being a farmer? No. That just means you haven't died recently.

I don't hold any animosity towards him. Rather, it's that his playstyle is completely anathema to my own and that I don't respect. All that matters, really, is that he enjoyed the game the way he played it. But, unlike Ice and your other friends, he would never put himself into harm's way for any reason. To me, that's an easy-moder... not necessarily a farmer. A farmer is someone who deliberately farms 'easy' renown/infamy from another player or account. I don't know if he ever did this or not, so calling him a farmer would be unfair then.


Then he must play his warg differently from his Burg. Perception is reality, but when he transfered the Burg to Elendilmir, many including myself thought him to be a complete easy-moder. Whatever, it's just a game.

In all fairness to you, I havent seen his burg play. And yeah he probably does play his warg differently than his burg.

About playstyles - I play how you do on my reaver, and I love it. I used to be the same way on my warg. I hated people with stars, and I never wanted any. Then moria rolled around...it was so hard to stay alive as a creep melee class with no charge or find footing/resilience type skill during bk 6 that I started to love it when all the incompetent freeps tried and failed so hard to kill me. Hence the stars. That and I 1v1ed most of my rank, and I rarely if ever lose a 1v1, even during book 6.

[chosen2]

Lol to the guy who said hunters suck on our server. Every freep/creep that transfers to Gladden says how much more skilled we are then everyone else. And they stay. + all the people who transfer away end up coming back because lack of challenge. I have some friends who just xferred to the supposedly best pvp server (brandy) and said how much mostly everyone sucks over there compared to the people on gladden. If you really think gladden sucks come try it our for yourself. You will be surprised with what you see.

[BrotherGab]

Brandywine freeps are trash. Don't you know?

[Why_Cry]

Illthalion...I've barely played on E. I had a few 1 or 2k days, where I would be PvE'ing most of the time, then I came back for ONE day to get 5 stars and the few KBs I needed for Defiler-foe. Creeps and freeps barely know me on that server, especially since 95% of my E renown came on 1 single day...a day where I focused solely on NOT dying. You're just picking on someone with a pretty War-tab. Also, I suicided to zero stars in my first week on E so people don't say that I "transferred my stars" over from a different server. Ill, I'd like to know what you saw that failed to impress you, but I don't think it could be much, considering how little I played and how you stuck to the zerg most of the time while I was off somewhere else.

Play a burg...those stars come. You get attached to them. Pair that with an all-or-nothing attitude, and killing you'll kill anything you have to (or avoid killing whatever you have to) to get there.

My warg is almost R10 with about 10k kills...despite dying many times each day I always log off with 4-5 stars. On my burg, I can get the same amount of kills but make way less rating because ranked creeps can't be found solo very often, so the ones who are easy to catch solo are greens/blues with very low rating/rank and only the occasional high-ranked creep. If I died the same amount of times on my burglar than on my warg, my burg would never break 2.5 stars. I haven't played my warg on a big server since MoM, but I managed to pull in 21k with my burg on E. My warg has done 15k, but that is on a less populated server.

Also, whoever said that I farmed for renown/Defiler KBs has never played a burg. I made almost 50 Defiler KBs on the first day of Book 13, lol. Those came from lowbies, for smart people know that ranked Defilers are extremely hard to kill, though I don't have trouble with them if I have my fear-pots with me.

And I'm definately not an easy-moder. I really loved the burg class, then I fell in love with the warg, but I've quit both because it wasn't a challenge anymore. I solo on a weaver now. Play what you like, or pick on LMs or RKs because they're truly easy-mode. Warg/burglar are OP, but not easy to play decently.

[lutzjc]

If you think that I'm QQ'ing or the slightest bit envious of his War-tab you're sorely mistaken. I'm quite happy with my own.

the QQ'ing was ment to be at that guy who posted the 100% star farmer.

[brodster56]

Lol to the guy who said hunters suck on our server. Every freep/creep that transfers to Gladden says how much more skilled we are then everyone else. And they stay. + all the people who transfer away end up coming back because lack of challenge. I have some friends who just xferred to the supposedly best pvp server (brandy) and said how much mostly everyone sucks over there compared to the people on gladden. If you really think gladden sucks come try it our for yourself. You will be surprised with what you see.

Most the brandywine freeps do suck, what else is new? We do however believe in fighting and dieing as well. Bet you'd be alot higher ranked without those 5 stars, but that's your playstyle. There are no patient freep raid leaders anymore except for a few that know they're outnumbered 3 to 1 and will wait at a keep.

[brodster56]

Illthalion...I've barely played on E. I had a few 1 or 2k days, where I would be PvE'ing most of the time, then I came back for ONE day to get 5 stars and the few KBs I needed for Defiler-foe. Creeps and freeps barely know me on that server, especially since 95% of my E renown came on 1 single day...a day where I focused solely on NOT dying. You're just picking on someone with a pretty War-tab. Also, I suicided to zero stars in my first week on E so people don't say that I "transferred my stars" over from a different server. Ill, I'd like to know what you saw that failed to impress you, but I don't think it could be much, considering how little I played and how you stuck to the zerg most of the time while I was off somewhere else.

Play a burg...those stars come. You get attached to them. Pair that with an all-or-nothing attitude, and killing you'll kill anything you have to (or avoid killing whatever you have to) to get there.

My warg is almost R10 with about 10k kills...despite dying many times each day I always log off with 4-5 stars. On my burg, I can get the same amount of kills but make way less rating because ranked creeps can't be found solo very often, so the ones who are easy to catch solo are greens/blues with very low rating/rank and only the occasional high-ranked creep. If I died the same amount of times on my burglar than on my warg, my burg would never break 2.5 stars. I haven't played my warg on a big server since MoM, but I managed to pull in 21k with my burg on E. My warg has done 15k, but that is on a less populated server.

Also, whoever said that I farmed for renown/Defiler KBs has never played a burg. I made almost 50 Defiler KBs on the first day of Book 13, lol. Those came from lowbies, for smart people know that ranked Defilers are extremely hard to kill, though I don't have trouble with them if I have my fear-pots with me.

And I'm definately not an easy-moder. I really loved the burg class, then I fell in love with the warg, but I've quit both because it wasn't a challenge anymore. I solo on a weaver now. Play what you like, or pick on LMs or RKs because they're truly easy-mode. Warg/burglar are OP, but not easy to play decently.

Makes sense to me, I was also one to pull in that many defiler kbs that week too i was already up to 200. 20k in a day can easily be done just depends on the action and who's out. pre-bk 7 I pulled in 26k in one day 18 hr played in that day.. It was also the week of 100k in 1 week.. Then after bk 7 managed to pull in 74k in a week. This was all solo or duo with an lm. Burglars/wargs are capable of pulling in a ton because of their stealth and escape skills. Malicious played on brandywine for a bit on his warg. If i'm not mistaken he carried 3-4 stars most the time and was usually solo. Kinmate Dosequis here nearly 500k renown only 22k kills. Something wrong with finding solo's and killing them? No, he never raided. 20k in a day does seem like farming but it's very possible from well rounded players who have played both sides and know where to gank. Enough said..

Keep up the posts with screenshots, I am back to playing my hunter again, Isariel is playing 10 hours a day in the moors and I took a month and a half break to get my ba, warg, and burg new ranks :P

[Illuminatus1379]

Illthalion...I've barely played on E. I had a few 1 or 2k days, where I would be PvE'ing most of the time, then I came back for ONE day to get 5 stars and the few KBs I needed for Defiler-foe. Creeps and freeps barely know me on that server, especially since 95% of my E renown came on 1 single day...a day where I focused solely on NOT dying. You're just picking on someone with a pretty War-tab. Also, I suicided to zero stars in my first week on E so people don't say that I "transferred my stars" over from a different server. Ill, I'd like to know what you saw that failed to impress you, but I don't think it could be much, considering how little I played and how you stuck to the zerg most of the time while I was off somewhere else.

Play a burg...those stars come. You get attached to them. Pair that with an all-or-nothing attitude, and killing you'll kill anything you have to (or avoid killing whatever you have to) to get there.

My warg is almost R10 with about 10k kills...despite dying many times each day I always log off with 4-5 stars. On my burg, I can get the same amount of kills but make way less rating because ranked creeps can't be found solo very often, so the ones who are easy to catch solo are greens/blues with very low rating/rank and only the occasional high-ranked creep. If I died the same amount of times on my burglar than on my warg, my burg would never break 2.5 stars. I haven't played my warg on a big server since MoM, but I managed to pull in 21k with my burg on E. My warg has done 15k, but that is on a less populated server.

Also, whoever said that I farmed for renown/Defiler KBs has never played a burg. I made almost 50 Defiler KBs on the first day of Book 13, lol. Those came from lowbies, for smart people know that ranked Defilers are extremely hard to kill, though I don't have trouble with them if I have my fear-pots with me.

And I'm definately not an easy-moder. I really loved the burg class, then I fell in love with the warg, but I've quit both because it wasn't a challenge anymore. I solo on a weaver now. Play what you like, or pick on LMs or RKs because they're truly easy-mode. Warg/burglar are OP, but not easy to play decently.

Fair enough. I won't say that I'm impressed by the stars or lack of deaths (because you seem to try sooo hard to avoid death, and you're good at it). I do respect you for setting such a lofty goal and achieving it. As for being an easy-moder, when I saw you playing your Burg after you first transfered over many many people including myself seemed to think that you only went after green/blue-dot Creeps that were alone. And whenever the real Creeps arrived, even if other Freeps were around, you vanished and didn't stay to fight. As I said, that is completely anathema to my own playstyle (most of the time) as well as a majority of the E population (during Book 6...). So, perhaps 'easy-moder' isn't the right word.

Maybe I ought to just shut-up and say, "congratulations" for achieving what you set out to do.

[chosen2]

Also, whoever said that I farmed for renown/Defiler KBs has never played a burg.

Look at my sig. I gank solo or with a hunter. That's all I do. Maybe it's just E is filled with more greenie defilers then gladden is.

Most the brandywine freeps do suck, what else is new? We do however believe in fighting and dieing as well. Bet you'd be alot higher ranked without those 5 stars, but that's your playstyle.

I believe in fighting and making people work for my infamy. I don't go in for a kill and give the raid free points. Reason being i'm one of the hardest people to kill on my server. If I burn my tricks and cds oh well. I just play more cautiously. More stars = more renown.

[DeathDemon07]

umm yeah 500 defiler kbs they are kinda hard to come by but ### does it matter if rank 10 hunters dont have them on your server just means the rank 10 hunters probably suck on your server

Funny how you say freeps are bad on our server when you're from Brandywine.

[lutzjc]

Funny how you say freeps are bad on our server when you're from Brandywine.

ohh so i am from brandy so i must suck right point is you dont know me and never fought me and there are like 2 hunters rank 10 on your server so no wonder none of them have that title

[Ustoc]

Look at my sig. I gank solo or with a hunter. That's all I do. Maybe it's just E is filled with more greenie defilers then gladden is.

As I have played both Servers E has a ton more Defilers so I can easily see this possible. Gladden has maybe 3-4 defilers who play regularly and about 5 random greenies if that. E could at least 90% of the BAs having a pocket defiler or WL and then other defilers (high ranked) group together and gold tag and others that tag with the raids

[CarltheRed]

I believe in fighting and making people work for my infamy. I don't go in for a kill and give the raid free points. Reason being i'm one of the hardest people to kill on my server. If I burn my tricks and cds oh well. I just play more cautiously. More stars = more renown.

You're a good player Seredir

[DeathDemon07]

ohh so i am from brandy so i must suck right point is you dont know me and never fought me and there are like 2 hunters rank 10 on your server so no wonder none of them have that title

Quote where I said "You suck at this game."

[Westernesse]

Got it last night after DN:


Was ~300k before bk 7 and the rest after.

Could of had it Sat afternoon, but I took a 3 day weekend which I don't regret. I guess some German? Hit r11 on Sunday though. He went from r6 going into bk 7 to r11 coming out. I had to suicide a lot to get my last 3.5k yesterday. Prob gave up like twice the infamy for every renown I got.

I'm not planning on going for r12 anytime soon, was hard enough to get motivated for r11.

[Rogmar]

Got it last night after DN:


Was ~300k before bk 7 and the rest after.

Could of had it Sat afternoon, but I took a 3 day weekend which I don't regret. I guess some German? Hit r11 on Sunday though. He went from r6 going into bk 7 to r11 coming out. I had to suicide a lot to get my last 3.5k yesterday. Prob gave up like twice the infamy for every renown I got.

I'm not planning on going for r12 anytime soon, was hard enough to get motivated for r11.

Grats