Lifetime Account Members Thread

[Marswarlord]

After re-reading the FAQ and the footnotes to the table, I guess since I own MoM and the Adventure module I still get 9 character slots. Is this correct?

[Anubias]

So yeah...this thread has outlived it's purposefulness...

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[highlandgirl]

After re-reading the FAQ and the footnotes to the table, I guess since I own MoM and the Adventure module I still get 9 character slots. Is this correct?

that's correct

[auximenes]

After re-reading the FAQ and the footnotes to the table, I guess since I own MoM and the Adventure module I still get 9 character slots. Is this correct?

Yes, the only way you lose character slots is by downgrading your account to the free-play status. Also, you will never lose the extra 4 slots from your previous purchases.

[SgtAnderso]

Yes, the only way you lose character slots is by downgrading your account to the free-play status. Also, you will never lose the extra 4 slots from your previous purchases.

If you do downgrade and your downgrade and you do not have enough slots for all of your characters you will be asked which ones you want to have active, the remaining characters will be placed in a Hold State until you upgrade your account, so you don't actually lose anything you only lose access to the characters you didn't activate.

[auximenes]

If you do downgrade and your downgrade and you do not have enough slots for all of your characters you will be asked which ones you want to have active, the remaining characters will be placed in a Hold State until you upgrade your account, so you don't actually lose anything you only lose access to the characters you didn't activate.

Right. I think everyone should either load-up DDO or at least check the DDO boards to see what to generally expect for LotRO. When I checked-out DDO again after the switch to F2P, I had less character slots and I just had to pick which ones were 'active'. My other characters were just locked, not deleted or anything drastic.

[Raath]

Right. I think everyone should either load-up DDO or at least check the DDO boards to see what to generally expect for LotRO. When I checked-out DDO again after the switch to F2P, I had less character slots and I just had to pick which ones were 'active'. My other characters were just locked, not deleted or anything drastic.

That's interesting. I just re-downloaded DDO the other night and I had to delete 2 or 3 characters. There was no "hold" feature that I noticed.

[SgtAnderso]

That's interesting. I just re-downloaded DDO the other night and I had to delete 2 or 3 characters. There was no "hold" feature that I noticed.

The information I posted is based on what the Devs have already told us. DDO may be different and since I don't play that one I can't say why that happened.

[auximenes]

That's interesting. I just re-downloaded DDO the other night and I had to delete 2 or 3 characters. There was no "hold" feature that I noticed.

Hmm. I'll try to log into DDO later and look again, but I sincerely doubt you've had any characters outright deleted. It's nothing personal Raath, but actually deleting characters is not something Turbine has done since AC1 as far as I can remember and that was only for conduct/name violations.

[Harkarden]

I am relatively satisfied with how they are compensating us.

[Raath]

Hmm. I'll try to log into DDO later and look again, but I sincerely doubt you've had any characters outright deleted. It's nothing personal Raath, but actually deleting characters is not something Turbine has done since AC1 as far as I can remember and that was only for conduct/name violations.

I hear ya.

I may have missed the "hold" feature. But I know the only one that was "locked" was my monk, because I now have to purchase that class.

[Lohi]

That's interesting. I just re-downloaded DDO the other night and I had to delete 2 or 3 characters. There was no "hold" feature that I noticed.

I had an invalid character class when I reloaded the game. I did not have to delete it. I could have just left it as inaccessible.

[Raath]

I just logged into DDO, and sure enough, they say that the characters are still available.

[azureal1977]

So yeah...this thread has outlived it's purposefulness...

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About 70-80 pages ago.

[Aulean]

So yeah...this thread has outlived it's purposefulness...

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Except for pure entertainment value.

About 70-80 pages ago.

Try 100?

I can't believe I read the whole thing.

[jalida]

2 lifetime founder account holder here.

I can't say as I was surprised by the news, although I figured it was either going to be that Lotro was shut down, closed doors, finished, caput, asta la vista baby, cya, cyanora, adios, or it was going to go to this F2P model.

In a way I am a bit disturbed by this route, as I've payed a small fortune to be the proud owner of 2 lifetime founding accounts, and now anybody and their mothers will be able to basically play for free without ever paying a red cent. Does this feel right? No, I can't say as it does. It feels like I've basically given them $400 (or was it $600, I can't remember it's been so long now) and now anybody will be able to play for free.

I don't really care about the free points as if most of the stuff in the store is not a game balancing nightmare then it's probably not stuff that I'd be interested in anyway, I mean really I don't care about having extra slots for clothing, it's just not important to me.

I suppose if I'd been playing Lotro all this time (and I haven't) then I might actually feel different as I'd feel I'd gotten my monies worth out of the game already. That's not Turbines fault however, that was our own decission to stop playing Lotro just because we couldn't hook up with each other at the same time and couldn't find players online to help us get through those areas that required grouping to get through.

I suppose if it works the way that Turbine expects it to, then grouping will be a whole lot easier to get together with more players playing, so that's a benefit if it works out.

Still, there is that nagging feeling down deep about paying out all that money to have an MMO be free to play to me for all this time and now knowing that others can play it without ever having put out one red cent that nags at me. I suppose it's just jealousy however and to be discounted, but this little 500 points they are giving to lifetime accounts per month in my opinion is rather shallow, although business wise it makes sence for them as it's just enough to get peoples appetites wet for the store so that they spend their real world money on the stuff they want that is not covered by the free points.

I think we all know what happens regardless of how many people say they will save the points for this or that, the fact is the majority of people will just get the appetite using the free points and will then spend real world currency to buy more items from the store, thus lifetime accounts that have already payed a small fortune for the game will in fact end up spending more money to buy items out of the store that they want and which the free points don't cover.

Granted, not all people are like that, there will always be some people that will never spend real money in the store and will just continue to bank their points until they have enough to buy what they want, however, I'm sure that Turbine and WB are counting on the other people that will end up spending their real life money on items that the free stippance does not cover.

I'm not sure which group I will fall into really, I guess it will depend on what items are actually offered up in the store. Obviously the items in the store will have to be something really cool to get people to give Turgine real money for points to buy stuff, so time will tell what pops up in the store.

If I'm able to buy XP points to get over this hump that my character has been in for... well, since about 12 months after the game launched, and buy enough XP points to move up so that I can get out of the doldrums of wherever my character was last parked, I might actually be enticed to buy points with real life money, but I won't be enticed to buy stuff from the store like extra character clothing slots, or be able to hold the deeds to 2 or 3 or 6 homes (I don't recall how many homes we can actually have to be honest, it's probably how ever much our characters can afford I suppose), but you get my drift I'm sure, little things like this don't entice me at all to give them any real money.

Okay, now I'm updating the game on my new home built computer as it's been at least it seems like a year or more since I've even bothered to load Lotro onto any computer that I own, as I was stuck in that rutt where I couldn't find any players to join up to get moving forward, maybe with the new F2P news, it might have brought some players back to playing and let me find a group to move ahead with.

[Anubias]

Try 100?

I can't believe I read the whole thing.

Some good info in the first 30 pages or so...hmm?

[Madduck]

Yep lifer , read about 40 pages :P

waiting and seeing , though for someone like myself that has 6 x 65 and 2 x 50 characters, my ability to gain TP through deeds is much reduced, and I doubt that 3k points will match that , if they don't do some retrospective rewards.


Also , I seem to have lost/misplaced? my beta invite... whats with that...

maybe THAT should have been part of the Founder/Lifer bonues

[fugori]

In a way I am a bit disturbed by this route, as I've payed a small fortune to be the proud owner of 2 lifetime founding accounts, and now anybody and their mothers will be able to basically play for free without ever paying a red cent. Does this feel right? No, I can't say as it does. It feels like I've basically given them $400 (or was it $600, I can't remember it's been so long now) and now anybody will be able to play for free.

This is the sentiment that really confounds me.

Free players aren't given free reign. I'd understand if they could do anything, access any content, but they can't. Their accounts are severely gimped in terms of features (limited character slots, storage space, gold accumulation, traits, level cap, quests that are available, etc.). It's all in the FAQ.

Do The New Free Players receive more value now than The Old Free Players (trial accounts)? Yeah, absolutely. They still only receive a small fraction of what we do, though, and not only that - but our value has increased.

[Kraggy]

It feels like I've basically given them $400 (or was it $600, I can't remember it's been so long now) and now anybody will be able to play for free.

The game YOU can play and the game THEY can play are so vastly different it's beyond me how you can come up with that sort of comment.

Have you actually READ the FAQ? If you had you'll know just how limited a game someone who doesn't pay a single dime to play really is.

[elderlygamer]

The game YOU can play and the game THEY can play are so vastly different it's beyond me how you can come up with that sort of comment.

Have you actually READ the FAQ? If you had you'll know just how limited a game someone who doesn't pay a single dime to play really is.

^^ This.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that the game the f2p players will be able to play will be identical to the game the paying members can play. Logically people who are paying for an account (non-lifers) would be canceling their accounts in droves. After all, if they can get the same thing for free that they're paying for now, why pay? And I'd think *some* of them would be posting threads thanking Turibne for allowing those folks to play for free without losing anything.

Well, I've looked and looked and looked and can't seem to find any such threads. Can those who insist that f2p players are getting the same thing as paying players please point me to such threads? Thanks!

[Nymphonic]

Ya but who would do that when for $14.99 more you can get a month free basically. Id personally go for the $30 option.

In a normal situation yes I would agree with you 100% but before I bought lifetime I did not want to take a chance on over draft charges on my bank card so I used gamecards, which came to be $15 a month.

[Preshous88]

I really wish I knew I was dumping my money into a garbage can when I paid for this lifetime subscription.

[Drogo1]

I really wish I knew I was dumping my money into a garbage can when I paid for this lifetime subscription.

Please explain just how this change (F2P) makes your lifetime account worthless?? I still don't get this - and I have 2 lifetime subs...

[Comstrike]

I really wish I knew I was dumping my money into a garbage can when I paid for this lifetime subscription.

And a lot of non-lifers which they could buy your subscription now.

Which illustrates both the value of them to many, and how others bought them without apply much good consumer sense.