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[Softello]

Most of you creeps should just go back to your home servers. If you sit @ GV and wait for a 20 vs 5, this means you need to go home. Sad to say but not sure if I should even waste my time lvling a freep on this server, when this is how u guys respect play. You guys need to step back and look to see if you have any skill in this game besides zerging. Hotdots or whatever your name is u are a noob and only zerg. LOL Great play noob!!!

[johnimli]

I am actually getting fed up with these gv campers too. I just want to have fun. sigh. whatever. I have another server I can play on. I'll keep trying, though. To the creeps at stab and ec who are there constantly like vexter. you guys have more fight in you then the ones up near GV. <salute>

[lance20100]

i can haz <salute>?

[JohnWayneHarley]

Most of you creeps should just go back to your home servers. If you sit @ GV and wait for a 20 vs 5, this means you need to go home. Sad to say but not sure if I should even waste my time lvling a freep on this server, when this is how u guys respect play. You guys need to step back and look to see if you have any skill in this game besides zerging. Hotdots or whatever your name is u are a noob and only zerg. LOL Great play noob!!!

Dude u think me running a grp of 3 (including myself) is a zerg? You're the noob! I am ONE person on this server and do NOT dictate how others play, I have had plenty of one on ones with miracle, speedo(a few), and other 65 rk and mini too, your not even 65 and are saying things that you have no idea of.

You still on CM at lvl 55 ... have fun kiddo

Obtw, You know I am a healer right... k ty, come again

[waveslider81]

Check it out guys, you don't wanna deal with a GV camp stay outta the moors until you are 65! It is really simple. Also I know that there were still about 10 creeps out today when I pulled my entire tribe back but 2 or 3 just to keep eyes on gv. the freeps up there never came out. Like I said I knwo there was about 10 creeps up there but from what I was told you guys made no effort to come out another way so it isn't all the creeps fault. Check yourself b4 you go blaming creeps for camping the come out points or whatever.

I don't really care what you or anyone else has to say b/c you guys are to blame also, well the ones that stay at gv ALL THE TIME! Like I said before guys, you all have say in how the moors are run. If you don't want to waste your time out here then you go back to your home server. I can't dictate how anyone but me plays so either leave or deal with it period. To those that I have actually had good fights with thanks for coming out. Thanks for being willing to stand the harshness of how things are atm. I have no doubt that once the freeps are geared and whatnot that things will be different.

I do actually have a very serious question for Soft, well a couple of them actually.

1. Why do you come out here at your lvl?
2. How would you like us to play?

[Assassin12]

Check it out guys, you don't wanna deal with a GV camp stay outta the moors until you are 65! It is really simple. Also I know that there were still about 10 creeps out today when I pulled my entire tribe back but 2 or 3 just to keep eyes on gv. the freeps up there never came out. Like I said I knwo there was about 10 creeps up there but from what I was told you guys made no effort to come out another way so it isn't all the creeps fault. Check yourself b4 you go blaming creeps for camping the come out points or whatever.

I don't really care what you or anyone else has to say b/c you guys are to blame also, well the ones that stay at gv ALL THE TIME! Like I said before guys, you all have say in how the moors are run. If you don't want to waste your time out here then you go back to your home server. I can't dictate how anyone but me plays so either leave or deal with it period. To those that I have actually had good fights with thanks for coming out. Thanks for being willing to stand the harshness of how things are atm. I have no doubt that once the freeps are geared and whatnot that things will be different.

I do actually have a very serious question for Soft, well a couple of them actually.

1. Why do you come out here at your lvl?
2. How would you like us to play?

No point coming out of GV when you get all 10 creeps at gv map in on you is there? Right now the improvement of the moors is purely in the creeps court whether you like it or not.

[Softello]

1. Why do you come out here at your lvl?

1. I come out to the Moors under level'd because I want to see if I can kill any greenies or blues out, which I have at lvl 45 and 55. I also need a break from lotro grind.

2. How would you like us to play?

2. I would like you guys to play like you care about skill and not numbers. That being said I would like u to sit back and watch if you see 8 creeps vs 4 freeps. Instead of jumping in and making the #'s more ********. I would also to see people to respect CM even if they don't take part in the spars up there <Both sides). People like to test different strats up there to make them better players.

Healdots
Obtw, You know I am a healer right... k ty, come again lol a healer u know
U picked the most OP class in the Moors @ r6 right? You gank CM and if u see a even fight you just zerg it.
Go to the store and pick up some skills.
k ty, come again

[the_blah]

Patience freeples. Yowza. Wait for the server to catch up.

Not all of us have time to live in LOTRO and power level. Give it a couple more weeks and GV camping won't even be an issue. At least level up to 65 before heading out there. Low levels complaining about dying? LOLOLOL. There is more than one way out of GV if you absolutely have to go out there before level 65. Use common sense.

...and drink lots of beer.

[esdumby]

*scratches head* I thought this was going to be the god of pvp servers. where creeps/freeps would play with a little dignity. However, i knew this would happen. quite honestly if you didnt, it was kinda foolish to be believe otherwise. Put the same zergers/raiders on different servers and expect different outcomes? goodjob, just failed rational thinking right there. Im not condemning any of the people that do zerg on this server because they dont know better and thats how pvp in lotro is. I just laugh a little at the ones that thought riddermark would be different. Its the Same People playing here, what did you think would happen???

[waveslider81]

2. How would you like us to play?

2. I would like you guys to play like you care about skill and not numbers. That being said I would like u to sit back and watch if you see 8 creeps vs 4 freeps. Instead of jumping in and making the #'s more ********. I would also to see people to respect CM even if they don't take part in the spars up there <Both sides). People like to test different strats up there to make them better players.

Healdots
Obtw, You know I am a healer right... k ty, come again lol a healer u know
U picked the most OP class in the Moors @ r6 right? You gank CM and if u see a even fight you just zerg it.
Go to the store and pick up some skills.
k ty, come again

I have sat there several times and let fights go on without jumping in b/c there is no point. As a matter of fact my whole tribe has. Ganking CM, like I said in a previous post if it looks fishy you will die. Here is what I mean, if I am up on CM and you and 5 others come up there and you come at me 1 at a time, sorry but you know for a fact that you won't beat a rank 4 anything at lvl 55 and under 1v1, and you 5 keep coming back after being killed several times then yeah I would expect you guys to get ganked. You riding up there yep your going to get killed. I have been up on CM a bunch watching 1v1s along with hots and whatever and we didn't jump in since it was a lvl 65 everytime and a different creep.

Funny you say defiler is the most OP class at rank 6 since people on freep side accused me of rolling the most OP class there is to offer. Listen dude, despite what you think about what is happening atm if you honestly don't like getting killed then stay outta the moors until you are lvl 65.

Speedo, I agree to an extent. Like I said before I called my tribe off GV and you all stayed holed up at the stairs, didn't even make an effort. You guys could have rolled most of the people up and yet you didn't. This lays on the freeps as well. you guys won't come outta freakin gv (you guys is a general term). Do you honestly think that creeps are going to stay away from some points at this point? NO they won't. you know you all talk about the creeps ganking and what not, but I have seen the same thing from the freeps. Yeah Speedo it lays on us, but you guys need to do your part. I have said several time that I would love to get some small group fights going but no one has spoken up. I talked to fishbait last night to see if you 2 wanted to move over and do some 1v1s no dice. You act as if we aren't trying to get some different stuff in there, and yet everytime offered you guys decline. I don't think you guys understand that at some point it is about the points and I think I can speak for not only my tribe but for everyone else creepside we are at that point. We are bored as hell doing quests or we have all the maps we can get so what else is there to do DP? Yeah sure but when you have 100k worth there isn't much point in doing DP since you can't spend it.

Anyways I have said it b4 and I will say it again, IF YOU WANT SOME SMALL GROUP ACTION OR 1V1 2V2 3V3 SPEAK UP AND I WILL GET SOMETHING SETUP.

[waveslider81]

Patience freeples. Yowza. Wait for the server to catch up.

Not all of us have time to live in LOTRO and power level. Give it a couple more weeks and GV camping won't even be an issue. At least level up to 65 before heading out there. Low levels complaining about dying? LOLOLOL. There is more than one way out of GV if you absolutely have to go out there before level 65. Use common sense.

...and drink lots of beer.

Maybe now that a freep player said they will listen.

[gloinfast]

Dude u think me running a grp of 3 (including myself) is a zerg? You're the noob! I am ONE person on this server and do NOT dictate how others play, I have had plenty of one on ones with miracle, speedo(a few), and other 65 rk and mini too, your not even 65 and are saying things that you have no idea of.

You still on CM at lvl 55 ... have fun kiddo

Obtw, You know I am a healer right... k ty, come again

please keep on underestimating my 59 hunter dps :P

[darkplains]

Funny you say defiler is the most OP class at rank 6 since people on freep side accused me of rolling the most OP class there is to offer

I play an OP class too!!! I got green buttons that make somebody's health go up instead of down.... BLASPHEMY!

[couillon]

Anyways I have said it b4 and I will say it again, IF YOU WANT SOME SMALL GROUP ACTION OR 1V1 2V2 3V3 SPEAK UP AND I WILL GET SOMETHING SETUP.

The most positive thing I've read in this thread (so far)...and that's even with me thinking that other (zergy) creeps will probably crash the party. I'm only 52 atm so I'll have to wait a bit to taste your blood but it's a positive sign and I look forward to facing off vs you and your tribe in the next few weeks. /salute

ps, could some freeps get the relic, those of use <65 could use the 3% exp gain ;D

[magicman0149]

Defiler definitly is the most op class, it has the power drains.....*sarcasm*

[Assassin12]

I have sat there several times and let fights go on without jumping in b/c there is no point. As a matter of fact my whole tribe has. Ganking CM, like I said in a previous post if it looks fishy you will die. Here is what I mean, if I am up on CM and you and 5 others come up there and you come at me 1 at a time, sorry but you know for a fact that you won't beat a rank 4 anything at lvl 55 and under 1v1, and you 5 keep coming back after being killed several times then yeah I would expect you guys to get ganked. You riding up there yep your going to get killed. I have been up on CM a bunch watching 1v1s along with hots and whatever and we didn't jump in since it was a lvl 65 everytime and a different creep.

Funny you say defiler is the most OP class at rank 6 since people on freep side accused me of rolling the most OP class there is to offer. Listen dude, despite what you think about what is happening atm if you honestly don't like getting killed then stay outta the moors until you are lvl 65.

Speedo, I agree to an extent. Like I said before I called my tribe off GV and you all stayed holed up at the stairs, didn't even make an effort. You guys could have rolled most of the people up and yet you didn't. This lays on the freeps as well. you guys won't come outta freakin gv (you guys is a general term). Do you honestly think that creeps are going to stay away from some points at this point? NO they won't. you know you all talk about the creeps ganking and what not, but I have seen the same thing from the freeps. Yeah Speedo it lays on us, but you guys need to do your part. I have said several time that I would love to get some small group fights going but no one has spoken up. I talked to fishbait last night to see if you 2 wanted to move over and do some 1v1s no dice. You act as if we aren't trying to get some different stuff in there, and yet everytime offered you guys decline. I don't think you guys understand that at some point it is about the points and I think I can speak for not only my tribe but for everyone else creepside we are at that point. We are bored as hell doing quests or we have all the maps we can get so what else is there to do DP? Yeah sure but when you have 100k worth there isn't much point in doing DP since you can't spend it.

Anyways I have said it b4 and I will say it again, IF YOU WANT SOME SMALL GROUP ACTION OR 1V1 2V2 3V3 SPEAK UP AND I WILL GET SOMETHING SETUP.

Heres a look from my perspective venom. You 1v1ed Fishbait and he beat you. The blue spider then jumps fish and kills him and the defilers heal up the blue spider when i attempt to kill him for interrupting the 1v1. Now do you really expect me to trust you?

[ben4patriots]

ps, could some freeps get the relic, those of use <65 could use the 3% exp gain ;D

No point. Creeps will just take it back. If they want more freeps they should let the freeps keep the 3%. I took the relics with a small group of 4 the other day. It lasted about 24 hours which was more then I expected. Its not like they can't kill the CG get the 2k DP and leave the relics.

[Drexlorn]

1- There's a safe path to ost, you're not trapped at GV so if you're there qqing, you choose to stay and play there.

2- Level up to 65. What do you expect if you're not ?

3- I'll not play as YOU wish. I pay my f*cking subscribtion and i owe you nothing.

4- Be patient, when freeps comes out with enough numbers, you'll roll us.

For you freeps at the moment, your best bet is to resume leveling/gearing and push your friends to do the same asap. We'll have more interesting and equal battles for sure.

Don't give up n00bs !

[waveslider81]

Heres a look from my perspective venom. You 1v1ed Fishbait and he beat you. The blue spider then jumps fish and kills him and the defilers heal up the blue spider when i attempt to kill him for interrupting the 1v1. Now do you really expect me to trust you?

Not sure how he interrupted the 1v1 since I died. At that point the fight is over. You can trust or not trust me that is your choice all I know is that you have to see it from our side as well. From what I have seen from most freeps at this point is the norm for a new server. You all need to understand that what you are seeing in the moors atm is the norm for a new server. You guys are acting like this will be the norm and we aren't even a month into the new server. Like someone else said, give it time and the stuff you are seeing now will stop. Now isn't the time to be complaining about how things are. If it is like this in like 2 months then you all can cry about it

[darkplains]

No point. Creeps will just take it back. If they want more freeps they should let the freeps keep the 3%. I took the relics with a small group of 4 the other day. It lasted about 24 hours which was more then I expected. Its not like they can't kill the CG get the 2k DP and leave the relics.

try 3-4 days

and we warned the freeps in GLFF that we would take the relics so come out and defend them

Of course it was just to get (hopefully) a bunch of freeps out to fight against because we were all so bored. We probably wouldn't have even taken it anyway but due to the general "we don't care" responses we got, we decided to take it off your hands for you all

[Assassin12]

Not sure how he interrupted the 1v1 since I died. At that point the fight is over. You can trust or not trust me that is your choice all I know is that you have to see it from our side as well. From what I have seen from most freeps at this point is the norm for a new server. You all need to understand that what you are seeing in the moors atm is the norm for a new server. You guys are acting like this will be the norm and we aren't even a month into the new server. Like someone else said, give it time and the stuff you are seeing now will stop. Now isn't the time to be complaining about how things are. If it is like this in like 2 months then you all can cry about it

Explain to me how killing someone on low morale after a 1v1 is different to interrupting a 1v1 either way just means free points for all parties involved.

[waveslider81]

Explain to me how killing someone on low morale after a 1v1 is different to interrupting a 1v1 either way just means free points for all parties involved.

Interrupting a 1v1 means that during the fight where both parties are alive someone else jumps in. What happened was a bit different. The fight was over. Why did he stand there and let himself get killed. Why not run back to the 1 shotters? Is what happened any different than me having 4 npcs on me and you along with 3 others run out of the 1 shotters and kill me? No it isn't it is free points for you guys but I guess that is ok since it was you freeps and you guys got the points right?

If I would have won the fight and had low morale you can't say that some freep running by wouldn't have killed me on sight. Wait a second now that I have thought about it that has happened a few times to me. 1 time on stab I was at 100 morale and an RK came and killed me. another time I was by ost at around 200ish morale and got killed by a freep. Look dude it happens on both sides so don't know what to tell ya.

You talk about us zerging all the time, well this afternoon I got zerged by 7 freeps and it was just me. You going to tell them to stop now? Of course not. Listen dude reguardless of what you think and how you and old softy want creeps to play we will be out there all the time ready to kill any freep that walks out. That said please come on the forums and talk about us some more cuz it puts a huge smile on my face when people that love to stand at the 1 shotters and basically get easy points come talk about how the creeps get easy points by zerging and stuff like that.

[Demkoa]

No point. Creeps will just take it back. If they want more freeps they should let the freeps keep the 3%. I took the relics with a small group of 4 the other day. It lasted about 24 hours which was more then I expected. Its not like they can't kill the CG get the 2k DP and leave the relics.

Oh... they took the relic? very sad.
Im not going to be able to log in much because i have business and from the 6th of october i will not be able to log on at all for a period of time.. not sure how long.

I was trying to check if every now and then and only found the odd wanderers there, TBh i didnt think they would try.

[Assassin12]

Interrupting a 1v1 means that during the fight where both parties are alive someone else jumps in. What happened was a bit different. The fight was over. Why did he stand there and let himself get killed. Why not run back to the 1 shotters? Is what happened any different than me having 4 npcs on me and you along with 3 others run out of the 1 shotters and kill me? No it isn't it is free points for you guys but I guess that is ok since it was you freeps and you guys got the points right?

If I would have won the fight and had low morale you can't say that some freep running by wouldn't have killed me on sight. Wait a second now that I have thought about it that has happened a few times to me. 1 time on stab I was at 100 morale and an RK came and killed me. another time I was by ost at around 200ish morale and got killed by a freep. Look dude it happens on both sides so don't know what to tell ya.

You talk about us zerging all the time, well this afternoon I got zerged by 7 freeps and it was just me. You going to tell them to stop now? Of course not. Listen dude reguardless of what you think and how you and old softy want creeps to play we will be out there all the time ready to kill any freep that walks out. That said please come on the forums and talk about us some more cuz it puts a huge smile on my face when people that love to stand at the 1 shotters and basically get easy points come talk about how the creeps get easy points by zerging and stuff like that.

I stand at the one shotters because whenever i leave them i get 10 creeps map in on me so id rather just sit there and laugh at the fact you cant kill me.

There is a big difference between someone jumping someone directly after a 1v1 and running into a low morale creep in the open. This other blue spider knew it was a 1v1 or he would have been attacking earlier and fishbait had no time to retreat to the 1-shots to regen you died and your buddies instantly ganked him.

[darkplains]

you died and your buddies instantly ganked him.

you're right... they could have just ganked him in the first place and denied fish the chance at any points our bad