Runekeeper BUG - FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[timmyloo22546]

I update the game after the patch. I decide to run a 3-man instance.

Me, a LM, a guardian. All is going perfectly fine in the pits. Finish the left side and move on to the right side. Well, I was healing and get bugged out. Great. I close my client and restart, waiting 5-10mins on cleaning up old connection. I get back in the game after kin patiently waited for me.

Pull two more sets of mobs and I bugged out AGAIN. I don't even get back in the game for 5-minutes and I'm bugged out. Like ###? seriously?

This should be a top priority fix!

[Thymelody]

I update the game after the patch. I decide to run a 3-man instance.

Me, a LM, a guardian. All is going perfectly fine in the pits. Finish the left side and move on to the right side. Well, I was healing and get bugged out. Great. I close my client and restart, waiting 5-10mins on cleaning up old connection. I get back in the game after kin patiently waited for me.

Pull two more sets of mobs and I bugged out AGAIN. I don't even get back in the game for 5-minutes and I'm bugged out. Like ###? seriously?

This should be a top priority fix!

Did you have AFE up? So far the only way I've been able to not bug out in the past week is by NOT having AFE up... which is utterly ridiculous as it makes the 5 set healing bonus useless, and it prevents me from using one of my favorite skills.

Why the bug seems to be occuring more frequently I'm not sure. I've not changed my healing rotation whatsoever, and it's now occured for me once in ToO, once in foundry, and once in a 3 man just in the past week when I hadn't had the problem before.

Does Turbine really not want RKs to be healers or something? The fact that it has yet to be fixed makes me seriously wonder..

[Fin.]

Minstrels have some serious lobbying power, in order to push back fixes for falling rock and AFE glitch.

Jokes aside, just the fact that I have farmed month to get new armor set for the 5piece bonus and I can not use it is absolutely ridiculous.

[Warth]

Minstrels have some serious lobbying power, in order to push back fixes for falling rock and AFE glitch.

Jokes aside, just the fact that I have farmed month to get new armor set for the 5piece bonus and I can not use it is absolutely ridiculous.

./signed

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[timmyloo22546]

lol I bugged out in last fight of trouble in tuckburrow.

I've healed in 4 instances/skirmishes since the patch and bugged out 3 times already. <3 my RK

(yes AFE has been up every time).

Message I received from a GM: +******+ tells you, 'The issue you have described is not a currently known issue.' <---hint hint to spam bug reports until it becomes a "known" issue.

[Thymelody]

lol I bugged out in last fight of trouble in tuckburrow.

I've healed in 4 instances/skirmishes since the patch and bugged out 3 times already. <3 my RK

(yes AFE has been up every time).

Message I received from a GM: +******+ tells you, 'The issue you have described is not a currently known issue.' <---hint hint to spam bug reports until it becomes a "known" issue.

That's bogus. I've submitted two bug reports in the past week, and I find it hard to believe that the other RKs that have had this issue the last 3+ weeks haven't submitted a bug report.. But, for those of you that have had the problem, yes, please do bug it if you haven't already.

[revoked]

It takes a lot longer than two weeks to get a bug on the "known issue".

From what I understand, it goes something like this.

First, the problem has to be reported a sufficient number of times to get it to the people whose jobs it is to actually fix things. God only knows how many reports are required, but it is bound to be a big number. Then it has to get to the top of their pile (which is probably sorted into subpiles by severity. This bug is severe to healing RKs but so one assumes it will get attention soonish, but since it only affects RKs and only a portion of RKs it might not be as high in the pile as we think it should be). At that point, maybe, just maybe, you will get a "we're looking into it" comment on the forums...but it is not on the known issues list yet. Before that happens, they have to look at enough cases that they actually think they know what is going on and potentially have a solution. Then they have to decide if in the time before a fix is implemented, a GM can actually do anything about it without messing up other things.

At that point it might get added to "known issues" list and GMs might get told what they are allowed to do. Which might be only to tell the victim of the bug, we're sorry, this is a known issue and you have to relog. But then again, it might not get added yet, because apparently companies have a limit on the number of items on their known issues list.

The GM's response basically means the bug has not made it down to the list of things I have been directed to respond to and given powers to correct. Or to tell you they are sorry even. It doesn't actually mean that Turbine isn't working on it...but I will say, some acknowledgement of the problem and confirmation that it is being looked into would be very welcome.

[Fin.]

One has to wonder, imagine if guardians had the same bug as we do. Ofcourse they don't have AFE, but this bug will happen if they used pledge. How fast do you reckon that will be fixed?

Zombie this is a serious issue healing Runekeepers have to deal with, and your continuous silence on this matter is unacceptable.

It is one thing that you did not fix hunters power restore, which should be 5 ticks not 4, for months.

But this is huge, it makes rks only healing raid set pretty much obsolete, causes huge problems in groups because apparently this bug can spread to fellowship/raid members and in the end, further encourages the paradigm that healing RKs are inferior to minstrels.

This needs fix, ASAP.

[timmyloo22546]

But this is huge, it makes rks only healing raid set pretty much obsolete, causes huge problems in groups because apparently this bug can spread to fellowship/raid members and in the end, further encourages the paradigm that healing RKs are inferior to minstrels.

This needs fix, ASAP.

When I bugged out in trouble in tuckburrow on the last fight the raid still killed all the bosses. However, one of the corpses was still standing and not actually dead according to the game. The raid couldn't actually advance to click the flag until after my cleaning up old connection happened.

[Warth]

Bump. I want this thread at the top of the page until a GM responds.

[Alko]

How it efects RK I was reading all post but I didnt find how it bugs maybe I missed something.

And I want offer one thing from my exp I found hard to fill bug report form properly and usualy I find my self just restarting game and avoiding this bug.
So my offer is lets help each ather. You found bug place in forums and try decribe how replicate it then someone who tested it into same post make form of bug report so evryone who replicated bug could use same form to report bug each day till it gets fixed.

In this way we should get faster respond and fixes if we will be able make numbers.

Lets Make RAID Main boss TURBINE xD
Skills to use x amount of bug reports LFF 1/x RKs only.

[Fin.]

How it efects RK I was reading all post but I didnt find how it bugs maybe I missed something.

Your morale and power is stuck. I believe the only dmg you take is from transfered dmg of AFE.

You can not auto-attack.

You can not use any skill.

Can't use any item (clickies).

You can not log out. When you press Log out, it will count from 25s to 0, and nothing will happen.

If you die due to transfered dmg, you can not press retreat, or revive(if someone rezzes you).

Once you shut down lotro by force, and you want to log in back in the game you will be stuck on "Cleaning up old connection" for about 10 to 30minutes.

Cherry on the top - Once you are bugged, everything mentioned above can spread on other members of your fellowship.

[Neen_Eldar]

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...463-Frozen-RKs

Cherry on the top - Once you are bugged, everything mentioned above can spread on other members of your fellowship.

All about destroying the raid you're in D:

[revoked]

The idea of it spreading to other members of the fellowship is odd. How can a bug that affects one player spread to others? Isn't it more likely that the same conditions that are causing it for the first player cause the same thing to happen to others? If it spreads, does it spread to all others in the raid or to other classes that have similar skills. For example, AFE is essentially a toggle skill that affects damage taken by other players and the game must check they have the effect on them, calculate damage taken, and transfer some of that damage to you, the RK. I think some captain skills would be similar, so it makes sense a captain might get stuck in the same way once he uses, for example In Harm's Way. Not because it spread so much as it is similar conditions causing the bug.

If it is a hunter or another class that doesn't have skills like that, then it has to be a different type of problem...bugged invisible mob...but if it is AFE, AFE doesn't affect mobs per se, it affects damage and players...

Who does it spread to when you say it spreads?

[Fin.]

Who does it spread to when you say it spreads?

In my case, to captains and minstrels.

And I agree seems like it is tied to damage transfer, as I have heard about captains getting stuck using last stand(most probably in harms way was used as well).

[Warth]

In my case, to captains and minstrels.

And I agree seems like it is tied to damage transfer, as I have heard about captains getting stuck using last stand(most probably in harms way was used as well).

Same here, our captains bugged first after our RKs. But we've also had hunters bug too. It always starts with the RK, though.

[Thymelody]

Same here, our captains bugged first after our RKs. But we've also had hunters bug too. It always starts with the RK, though.

I've only had it spread to other folks once - and that was in T2 Fire & Frost trash pulls. The other two times it's bugged out on me (once in a 3 man, the other time in foundry, it only impacted me). In T2 ToO, it first bugged out on me, and within 4-5 seconds, 2 players within my fellowship, and the minstrel in the other one complained that they couldn't use any of their skills . The two in my fellowship were hunters.
We all were forced to "x" out of the game. The hunters and minstrel got back into the game, after cleaning up old connection, within ~20 minutes. It took me about 30 minutes to get back in.

[Viduo]

This is crazy. I originally posted about the "RK Healing on Saruman" and people were not experiencing this. Now its like a rampant virus that has corrupted all of RK-dom. It's like a nightmare lol. TURBINE, READ YOUR FORUMS!!! THIS IS A KNOWN ISSUE!!!!!!!!!

[Thymelody]

Deleted text. See "A Plea to Z.C." instead.

[Misira]

I'd like to ask the folks this has happened to if they were using any type of Lua or plugin when this happened to them. Also, was it first introduced with the patch on the 17th? I had it happen last night in Saruman fight as well but could not recreate it aftwards. From the places its happened, its not RoI instances specific either.

Thanks for the input!

Davea

[timmyloo22546]

I'd like to ask the folks this has happened to if they were using any type of Lua or plugin when this happened to them. Also, was it first introduced with the patch on the 17th? I had it happen last night in Saruman fight as well but could not recreate it aftwards. From the places its happened, its not RoI instances specific either.

Thanks for the input!

Davea

I have had it happen once months and months ago in DN (lvl 60 raid). It was the first time it has ever happened to me in PvE. Other than that, I never experienced it again in PvE until after the patch.

I have experienced it in the Moors in the past. It was still rare. It might have happened 2-3 times a night and not happen again for weeks or months. But stuff like that would happen to WLs and seemed to me Moors only. Not to mention, 8 out of 12 people in our raid would suddenly go link dead (not AFE related). I figured those issues were a rare server glitch when being stressed enough. Now that it happens often in PvE, idk what to say anymore...

I don't use Lua or plugins

[Dominarien]

I also had it spread to the members of my fellowship in the raid. They had AFE, RW, and WoH T3...the WoH and RW just kept renewing. However, once they were out of range (on the first bug) it disappeared. After that, I've noticed it sticking no matter what we do. As to healing RK's being inferior to Minstrels, I'd agree..and moreso it seems since RoI. Things I used to have no problem healing, I now do. Also to the plugins, I disabled mine after the first problem because that was my first suspect..but it did no good as I still have the issue.

[timmyloo22546]

Ugh I avoid healing on my RK for couple days and then decide to check out the Moors and heal. Within 30 minutes I was glitched out again. I submitted 2 bug reports and 1 ticket.

Glad I have my 5-piece healing set bonus, so awesome.

[Fin.]

Silent Bob reminds me of someone.

[dagneyandleo]

While I wait for my connection to clear, I'm going to add my name to the list of rks who have bugged out in Orthanc. I was on Saruman t1 p3 when it bugged. Yesterday, my fellow rk healer, Marvi bugged out on Fire/Frost. This isn't the first time it's happened by any means. We don't have any minis in our raid group, and it's not for lack of healing skill that we're suffering.

The runestone falls through the floor, so we're missing an AOE HoT and Rousing Words no longer works properly. We actually went back and untraited the runestone (the first time I've ever done this).

Then the only skill we have that can reliably mitigate damage without causing us to lose attunement causes us to freeze with our hands in the air, killing the rest of the fellow in the process?

This is ridiculous. And it's been going on for quite some time without a fix.

I love my class, and I love my HoTs. I am just as capable as a healer as any mini, and better than most. But I find myself tempted to sit things out in favor of other classes simply because I am embarrassingly unreliable and if things screw up it'll take me half an hour to log back on again.

This is unacceptable. (And I'm still logging on, if it says anything.)