Farming

[Aramidis]

So I have a question for everyone.

Why not farm? The past 2 months its been constant GV - TR fights, when the freeps get numbers creeps go to grams. Ever since Impeccable started freeps started losing so we tried to make it more fair by planing Raid vs Raid and leachers started joining creepside following us everywhere so it didnt work so well. We tried to help freepside by getting them Delvs Buff before the fight start but the Ezmoding Tribes where against it and always stopped us from getting them to encourage more freeps to come out. Half of the old freeps started to only play creepside. Impeccable took a 3 weeks brake for personal life and to give Freeps the time to get together and start fighting the other Tribes and get stronger by getting their gears and we came back to find out BB had returned since they find out it's even easier to farm freeps now than their old EC Farming days.

It takes atleast 2 raids of Freeps to actually do something in moors (proven the other night) and it was still farm central because BB just ported to grams until a keep was pushed and port in to get their Infamy. Atleast SS had the balls to stay and fight (my props to them) and ofcourse our 6 man group in Impeccable. A few other people where having a discussion on against and in favor of farming in Nimrodel and this sentence made me think "Why not to farm since creeps get x2 - x4 times infamy/renown and coms than freeps and most freeps are only in moors for the gears because unfortunately the best PvE gear at lvl 85 is the PvP gear". That line was said by someone who was against farming. Some one in the dicussion for farming said "There is always 3 - 5 Def and atleast 1 - 2 WL and the rest are BA because when they push to GV they can get a higher chance to kill some one in the safety of 1 shots and the reavers and wargs are always hiding incase some one tries to leave".

That line was proven to me today when I went to go on my Burgfail and as soon as I left GV stairs I find 1 freep fighting 2 BA, 3 Def, 2 WL and a Warg (All from BB except the warg). As soon as 3 more freeps joined another BA, Reaver and Def joined and BB slowly back peddal back to safety and ported out until the warg called out the positions of the freeps when they seperated and ported around to zerg them.

This conversation has even made me considered farming, so let's see if anyone has a counter opinion. (Still haven't farmed just incase you where wondering just considered it)

[dafroisweet]

This conversation has even made me considered farming, so let's see if anyone has a counter opinion. (Still haven't farmed just incase you where wondering just considered it)

I only farmed about 2k

Farming is farming, sorry. I could take the time to deconstruct the rest of your asinine post, but I'm not really in the mood for a 2 page argument with someone that has almost no clue as to what he's talking about.

In regards to farming, it's not like anyone can stop you. Unfortunately, Turbine doesn't seem to have an issue with it, multi-boxing, or any of the other things that make the moors a more pointless place. Rank has really meant nothing for years now, and I don't know what pleasure you'd get out of farming other than to see big numbers on the leaderboards.

Nimrodel is, and always has been, a creep dominated server. Unfortunately, the massive influx of FOTM defilers and spiders has made it less and less appealing to play freepside, which is understandable, but there's really nothing you can do except get better freep raid leaders, and get more people to play freepside.

[johnnyskywalker]

Imo, the pvp on this server is farm at least 50% of the time.

[Piggy1973]

Bhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah , one eyed misinformed cluelessness ftl.

[ptiff]

"considering" farming.....pot this is kettle...you are still black. As for your "tribe", you had to form it after Rhyn, Life and BDC cleaned all you farmers out of their tribes. water will seek its own level.....

[Santoriu]

I dunno why peoples not tired talk about farming?
P.S if you want good pvp, try download other game (c)

[sp33dccm]

get more people to play freepside.

Easier said than done. I'm not a big moors player.. sure some people know that. And I come to the moors when I get really bored like if there's no raids/instances going on. I come to the moors to have a bit of fun. But it's really not fun when you constantly get zerged. I was out their couple hours here and there this week and there is close to no point. Sure, get more people out, but they won't do much; we just hide. Sure, we need more leaders, but there are some people that can't follow simple instructions. Hence, making the freep leader's job close to impossible

Granted, my moors experience is pretty much to 0 but that's my thought.. I'm still popping in and out because sometimes I do find it fun charging at a raid of creeps wondering if I can get one.. Whether or not it's pure stupidity? Who cares


But as for farming or not? I couldn't care less but why do you need to?... Renown is just a thing for people to feed their ego with and comms.. well once you get audacity, what's the point?

[gungus_coyote]

Your proposed solution, farming, has nothing to do with your described problem, creep domination. Most vet freeps have moved on to other games, stopped playing, went creep or whatever. As Dafro suggested above, the solution and the actual problem, is the lack of freep leadership. Props to folks like Shred who have tried. Find some strong, consistant freep leaders that can run some productive raids that can counter the current creep organization, and you

Farming is an excuse to easymode gear/rank, not a solution to the current issues.

Btw, there has been some influx of returning freep vets

[Oket]

I am a noob, and I got all my gear without farming. I mean have you seen how much I suck?!?!? I think Im speaking for all of creeps and myself when I say that. If I can do it, so can you. Farming is dumb. No exceptions in my opinion. :/ Adios!

[Santoriu]

Guys please, dont ignore poor Favir...

[joeverlasting]

Your viewpoint is valid as that is the way you see it. Someone else might see it completely differently. I don't think you will find "permission" to farm. I dont see the point in farming. It actually hurts whichever side you are on as you are missing from the action. As has been said, farming will not help freepside. The freeps have a pretty good chance now with a good leader and grouping up as the OPness of the creeps is not a big a factor as it was when RoR first came out (as Izo predicted). Freeps are not used to HAVING to group to survive so the talent pool to pull from for leaders and tactics is rather shallow. But this will change as well.

We are our own judge out here. Enjoy the game, take a break when gets too much. Some play for renown, some for the action, some to star hug, can't change that about others. I like to rank, love action, dont care about dying, and enjoy meeting and playing with those of like mind. And occassionally go on tilt, until I realize that its just because others aren't playing the way I want them to. Some will flip, some will 2box, and others will leach. It sucks. Its the moors. But sometimes its crazy fun and all worth it.

[Isilmacil]

I see what I must do.... ./straps on big cappy boots and helm. I'll have to lead the freeps again, lets do this.

But anyway, Im not a fan of farming, and while I ca't stop it, I wish I could. I do agree that freeps need strong leadership again. There haven't really been any freep leaders since SoM (yes I know there have been those who try to, but its only once in a while).
However, it is a 2 sided argument. Creeps need to learn when to not swarm on freeps/camp GV. Then you have freeps who need to learn to move somewhere else on the map to try to find action.


Overall, both sides need love for each other. Because only through the power of heart can our Moors be improved.


P.S., extra points if you got my reference in the last sentence.

[spelunker]

Is the loss of your easy-mode that hard to take? You're guilty of every single thing you complain about in that post, Giovy.

Freepside needs more good players and more good leaders on 3/4s of the servers in the game, nothing new here. If freeps don't like the action, they need to change and adapt now that creeps aren't pushovers any time numbers are remotely even.

I will say freeps in RoI were far better at keeping things such that creeps were compelled to keep coming out. Something I don't think is really the case with creeps for the most part so far.

[Aramidis]

Not saying I have farmed or will farm, all of you have seen my failbrug grinding his gears almost everyday. Like all my other 4 freeps and 4 creeps did, only 1 piece wasnt grinded and it was because I went on my defiler and just tagged every Defiler/BA when they where wiping the 2 freep raids the other night(got 5k coms in 1 hour). Im talking about the freeps that have been in the leader boards these past month with 20k - 60k renown and the next freep has 4k renown. Each time I ask them they said it was to get their gears for PvE.

Im Just saying if more creeps would switch to freepside once in a while we would have this problem and even they can join in moors and more people would join. Right now theres creeps vs freeps almost a raid size fight and freeps cant leave GV 1 shots because there 8 - 10 Defilers COUNTED (some log of and another takes their place) and 4 WL - 5 WL. the rest are Spiders and BA. The even funnier fact is that half of the people who replied this post or almost all of them are on the creepside.

Everyone knows I always try to switch to the losing side to try to help. It really is a pain in the a** to see so outpowered and everyone just say "O well we need freep leaders" but stay rolling creepside farming people then insulting people like Valiava who aparently is the only one that leads freep raids. I went to creepside after we took Delvs to gett 80% renown on both sides and a group of creeps where crying that since we stole the buffs we should push the keeps with creeps with more numbers... (JulioCep was one of them like always)

Come on! Join the Good Side! We have Elf Sandwhiches!

[julio_0504]

Easier said than done. I'm not a big moors player.. sure some people know that. And I come to the moors when I get really bored like if there's no raids/instances going on. I come to the moors to have a bit of fun. But it's really not fun when you constantly get zerged. I was out their couple hours here and there this week and there is close to no point. Sure, get more people out, but they won't do much; we just hide. Sure, we need more leaders, but there are some people that can't follow simple instructions. Hence, making the freep leader's job close to impossible

Granted, my moors experience is pretty much to 0 but that's my thought.. I'm still popping in and out because sometimes I do find it fun charging at a raid of creeps wondering if I can get one.. Whether or not it's pure stupidity? Who cares


But as for farming or not? I couldn't care less but why do you need to?... Renown is just a thing for people to feed their ego with and comms.. well once you get audacity, what's the point?

don't worry favir every new player at moors get killed like that , but i think freeps who are complaining , don't remember that when they get numbers , they just zerge oc over , and over again instead at least trying to fight , after 1 or 2 deaths most of them are at GV, when creeps have numbers i think that's ok but they are hidding there always in this game if you have numbers you win , that's it <--- saha

[julio_0504]

Not saying I have farmed or will farm, all of you have seen my failbrug grinding his gears almost everyday. Like all my other 4 freeps and 4 creeps did, only 1 piece wasnt grinded and it was because I went on my defiler and just tagged every Defiler/BA when they where wiping the 2 freep raids the other night(got 5k coms in 1 hour). Im talking about the freeps that have been in the leader boards these past month with 20k - 60k renown and the next freep has 4k renown. Each time I ask them they said it was to get their gears for PvE.

Im Just saying if more creeps would switch to freepside once in a while we would have this problem and even they can join in moors and more people would join. Right now theres creeps vs freeps almost a raid size fight and freeps cant leave GV 1 shots because there 8 - 10 Defilers COUNTED (some log of and another takes their place) and 4 WL - 5 WL. the rest are Spiders and BA. The even funnier fact is that half of the people who replied this post or almost all of them are on the creepside.

Everyone knows I always try to switch to the losing side to try to help. It really is a pain in the a** to see so outpowered and everyone just say "O well we need freep leaders" but stay rolling creepside farming people then insulting people like Valiava who aparently is the only one that leads freep raids. I went to creepside after we took Delvs to gett 80% renown on both sides and a group of creeps where crying that since we stole the buffs we should push the keeps with creeps with more numbers... (JulioCep was one of them like always)

Come on! Join the Good Side! We have Elf Sandwhiches!

sorry but you are the onlyone who is crying here qqing about being farmed at gv

[Grishmack]

Omg i was mentioned o.o

Leading raids is rare thing for me because i haven't seen the focus fire I should be (maybe I'm just used to the Avengers groups :P) when there is that many Defilers/WLs it becomes very hard for me to keep the group motivated and when people start dropping from the raid it means less damage. About 18-20 Freeps were in that raid tonight and i wasn't seeing anything die as fast as it should have been. Decent fights btw and as for Luzrun saying we only pushed with numbers and buffs, I'll quote from someone in the raid: "Look in the mirror, bud." Creep OOC was being posted in Freep OOC.

In no way do I compare to any of the old freep leaders like Landryt (whom did take over somewhat), Branders, etc etc...

I prefer soloing because I find it to be more challenging then to just target someone and trying to kill it with a bunch of other people. Hence why I like posting my 1v1s

As for farming: I say no, no, no...

[Goblin_of_Moria]

Hahaha.

[Aramidis]

sorry but you are the onlyone who is crying here qqing about being farmed at gv

Says the RK that changed to Warg because he got zerged everytime, who later quit the game and followed BB to GW2 because he had used all his coms on his warg and wasnt going to grind more to go back to his RK, who came back when Impeccable took control of moors(joined them) and played a spider for the reflect and never leaves Grams unless its a 90% chance he wont die. The problem with you actually trying to say I QQ Julio is that I actually know you so does Dechii and Kei. We all know how much you cried in RL because you where getting replaced in WGT and how much you cried that BB left and the moors wouldnt be Ezmoding without BBs raids. Next time you try to say I QQ, simply DONT! lol

[Gladgilrian]

All i can say to the ridiculous question posed by the OP.

Why not masturbation instead of taking the time to find a partner? It's easier and accomplishes basically the same thing. ./facepalm

[Ceremony]

Good thing I am not the only one who finds this funny o.O
It's not hard getting freeps to come the moors, I have been doing raids vs raids for the past 2 weeks :P
Both sides enjoying the battle ;0

[myforumacc2]

hai Giovy <3


My 2c: Farming's a pathetic way to try to win. That's the only reason to do it honestly, to win not have fun. Btw your goggles are incredibly thick, if freeps grabbed every freep buff available they can be outnumbered 1:2 and still faceroll if you have the right composition. Hell creep composition seems to be made for farming freeps lol

[avrilo]

Could you please try using some commas and periods? Even better, that energy you are wasting in making noob forum drama, use it in school.

Ever since Impeccable started freeps started losing

Losing what? Farmers and exploiters? Sounds like a good riddance.

BB had returned since they find out it's even easier to farm freeps now than their old EC Farming days.

Did you even have the game installed in those ´´old´´ days? Or are you just brainlessly repeating what you hear from the trash you surround yourself with? Are you in highschool? Don´t be stupid kid, try using your head. (NOT LITERALLY FFS, don´t hurt yourself)

Atleast SS had the balls to stay and fight (my props to them)

Don´t forget the left one. Come on kid, use that tongue

This conversation has even made me considered farming, so let's see if anyone has a counter opinion. (Still haven't farmed just incase you where wondering just considered it)

Not saying I have farmed or will farm

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...t=#post6539184

Correction, no one got pissed because everyone believed i got them fair and square because there where 3 days i got 10k+. 2 of those days i got 10k and basically I did it because I was with the group that had farmed their Aud and they wanted to help everyone else get their Aud so Hezz was making raids to help everyone because to put it simple creeps had been farrming freeps for 2 - 3 weeks. (A raid of 12+ couldnt beat a 6 man group of 4 reavers, 1 spider and 1 Def. That's how bad it was in Moors.)
The only day I farmed was they day I got 20k and out of that around 16k - 18k renown was legit from jumping group to group playing for around 12h none stop. So I decided to admit I farmed that last 2k renown/comms because Im not a saint. The only other day I was going to farm just to piss people off, either Murder/Hezz/people from Exceptional or from La Comunidad del Anillo kept talking to me and I actually never farmed and was just sitting in plains for 1 hour chatting and got bored so I left to PvP. Technically I only farmed 1 day and it was 2k renown/comms, I didnt farm for 1 - 2 weeks 10k - 30k each day

ROFL, &&&&&& horribad. Next time you try to make up &&&&, at least take the time to do it right.

but the Ezmoding Tribes

You´ve got to have THE never to refer to ezmoding tribes when that impecable trash is mostly made of flipping/exploiting/farming rejects. Try again, try harder.

Finally, weren´t you brainlessly bubbling that BB was dead? Rofl, now prepare to get lol-zerged every single chance for being a farming/flipping horribad with a big mouth.

[Aramidis]

ROFL, &&&&&& horribad. Next time you try to make up &&&&, at least take the time to do it right.

I don't consider 2k equal to farming my rank. I got Rank 9 Legit and as a solo Cappy not a raid baby like you. So what happened to GW2? How did that work out for you?

You´ve got to have THE never to refer to ezmoding tribes when that impecable trash is mostly made of flipping/exploiting/farming rejects. Try again, try harder.

Finally, weren´t you brainlessly bubbling that BB was dead? Rofl, now prepare to get lol-zerged every single chance for being a farming/flipping horribad with a big mouth.

Lol, flipping? I flip to either losing side and that is a bad thing? Exploiting? (Screeny Or it Didn't Happen) Farming? I farmed 2k, and Toq and Esfiel Farmed and that made the entire tribe farmers?

Face it, if it wasn't for Impeccable rolling freeps for 1 month and making it 1 sided you would still be but hurt from your "Last Raid". lol-zerged is the correct term for it because last night you all kept going for me while Grish and the DPS took out everyone of the other tribes then you guys, and still with the ENTIRE BB group and with others you only killed me 1 time. Funny thing is I have never used a brand because I have never bought one, if for 2 hours on my cappy you could only kill me once and it took you 10+ people to coordinate attacks on me fore 3 - 5 min and you only got me cause I lagged and couldn't press LS to get back into 1 shots... I cant imagine how your lol-zerg is going to get me if I start branding.

LOL! At you saying you are going to kill me at sight, that is so scary... makes me not want to go into a PvP map because I run the chance to die... BB died and now is back because Impeccable made it possible. I have a big mouth because you where using peoples RL to troll them in game so I trolled you so hard you started cursing me in spanish and I got you banned, get over it. If you can't handle being trolled just be quiet. Next time don't use OOC to dish out people RL situations because you can't beat them in game or be better than them.

BTW: Welcome back from being banned
PS: Hope this time you have a better insult for Toq than, "Don't go back to jail to drop the soap". After the first 50 times you say it starts to get boring...

[sp33dccm]

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