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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feraxks View Post
    How was that rude? Look at the post right above the one you quoted. THAT'S a rude post.
    Players like you amaze me...You enjoy whatever it is you do in the game therefore everything is peachy and anyone that disagrees with you is a whiny rude troll...I hope turbine appreciates your spirited defense of their game.

    I stand by my statement:
    what if anything are the devs actually doing with the game? I don't even think this is even a question of raider vs casual... Look at all the wasted potential there is in LOTRO that could please ALL players:
    - housing
    - Kinships
    - Music system
    - hobbies
    - festivals

    Everything has been neglected...When was the last time you saw a new festival or festival zone in game? When was the last hobby update? How many years have people been making fruitless housing revamp suggestions? I can't help the fact that I'm disappointment with the state of the game and the expansion that I paid for... Call me crazy but I expect more out of an MMO than landscape and solo quests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collagen123 View Post
    I get that you are probably tired of answering this question but there really is no reason to start being rude about it......
    LOL you really don't know what rude is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannypl View Post
    Players like you amaze me...You enjoy whatever it is you do in the game therefore everything is peachy and anyone that disagrees with you is a whiny rude troll...I hope turbine appreciates your spirited defense of their game.

    I stand by my statement:
    what if anything are the devs actually doing with the game? I don't even think this is even a question of raider vs casual... Look at all the wasted potential there is in LOTRO that could please ALL players:
    - housing
    - Kinships
    - Music system
    - hobbies
    - festivals

    Everything has been neglected...When was the last time you saw a new festival or festival zone in game? When was the last hobby update? How many years have people been making fruitless housing revamp suggestions? I can't help the fact that I'm disappointment with the state of the game and the expansion that I paid for... Call me crazy but I expect more out of an MMO than landscape and solo quests.
    We don't need anymore festivals. I think we have plenty. New festival zones, new rewards & quests- yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by frickinmuck View Post
    I can't believe people are STILL talking about the blasted license. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together could easily glean the game isn't ending anytime soon. If Turbine had an inkling that there was any chance of LotRO dying, do you think they'd have invested so many dev hours in completely rebuilding the class mechanics from the ground up, completely re-vamping every class and every skill? They're clearly laying groundwork for future development, and anyone who denies the obviousness of that is participating in recreational fear-mongering.
    ...Sigh...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asheron...:_Fallen_Kings

    A major expansion pack for Asheron's Call 2 titled Asheron's Call 2: Legions was announced in October 2004 and was released on May 4, 2005
    Asheron's Call 2: Fallen Kings is a fantasy MMORPG (massively multiplayer online role-playing game) for Microsoft Windows-based PCs which was released on November 22, 2002 and shut down on December 30, 2005

    Gee willikers guess who made that game?

    ...They can shut LOTRO down at anytime, I'm not saying it will be...I don't know and neither do you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannypl View Post
    Players like you amaze me...You enjoy whatever it is you do in the game therefore everything is peachy and anyone that disagrees with you is a whiny rude troll...I hope turbine appreciates your spirited defense of their game.

    I stand by my statement:
    what if anything are the devs actually doing with the game? I don't even think this is even a question of raider vs casual... Look at all the wasted potential there is in LOTRO that could please ALL players:
    - housing
    - Kinships
    - Music system
    - hobbies
    - festivals

    Everything has been neglected...When was the last time you saw a new festival or festival zone in game? When was the last hobby update? How many years have people been making fruitless housing revamp suggestions? I can't help the fact that I'm disappointment with the state of the game and the expansion that I paid for... Call me crazy but I expect more out of an MMO than landscape and solo quests.
    I have to agree, I mean whoppity do da they renewed the license is it really gonna make a difference when no one is left playing?

    I mean what in his post did anyone actually read that they can look forward too, I mean maybe someone else was seeing something I wasn't. I didn't see one single thing that interests me in the roadmap for 2014.

    I mean really no new instances or raids on the horizon why doesn't this surprise me. Oh boy so basically were gonna keep getting these big battles I'm assuming like in helms deep *rollseyes* Because they went over so well righttttttt......

    Maybe my post is harsh but whatever I'm sure most will disagree but I really don't care it's my money and I will do with it what I want...... Just like everyone else has the right to do what they pls.....

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    Hi OP.

    Thank god there will be no server mergers.. I have no intention of sharing my name with anyone... and I'd blow a gasket if I got an email/ message telling me my name will have to be changed, or even worse, I log in and not recognise my name.

    No thank you!

    What part of the answers was a surprise to you? I feel the The Exec Producer letter is a wish list - definitely not a "to do list", I can only assume Sapience et al can only be guided by that wish upon a star nonsense.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    I just wanted to drop in and address the concerns surrounding the license, again. We have said as far back as July of 2013, we plan to support LOTRO for many years to come. I really want to be as clear as possible on this subject to avoid any further confusion or misunderstanding. The license was renewed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    I think it's rather clear and direct. I can't think of a more direct way to say the license was renewed than to say the license was renewed.
    Quote Originally Posted by KarooOstrich View Post
    You should have stated this as clearly as this way back when.
    They was no need to string along the community making them guess and formulate conspiracy theories....


    Absolutely amazing News about the license being renewed. I am overjoyed

    As we are officially told today (that bunch of words used in July 13 is/was no confirmation at all), will there be fireworks over Bree, Rivendell, Michael Delving, Party Tree etc...

    There should be in game celebrations!

    There have been people who use the non announcement of the licence renewal for the basis of their doom and gloom rubbish... but far more importantly, role players and people who just love this game so much, who are anxious on the renewal of license, these people would love to hear the news.

    I just exited the game, and relogged. There is no announcement, there is no communication. There is no single post in a dedicated thread on these forums.... just Sapiences "thought bubble" in this thread.

    Communication is an afterthought, a thought bubble and a joke! If I did not know better, I could almost feel being treated with contempt.

    Have Turbine hired their professional Marketing Manager yet, they desperately need one!

    J_Rad

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    Quote Originally Posted by frickinmuck View Post
    I can't believe people are STILL talking about the blasted license. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together could easily glean the game isn't ending anytime soon. If Turbine had an inkling that there was any chance of LotRO dying, do you think they'd have invested so many dev hours in completely rebuilding the class mechanics from the ground up, completely re-vamping every class and every skill? They're clearly laying groundwork for future development, and anyone who denies the obviousness of that is participating in recreational fear-mongering.

    You know what, I love your posts. I especially love your wish lists in the Official Housing Thread, a waste of time mind you, (my crystal ball says we will not get housing this year, that batman game they are working on is badly sucking Turbines resources), however I don't read licence agreements for a living, but know businesses will sell stuff right up to the very last second they keep their doors open. This game could shut tomorrow with no announcement, and with the very poor communications Turbine has ...

    Could it have hurt the Community Manager to announce Great News, the licence was renewed! NO!

    What about it appearing in the grand Executive Producers Letter, this piece of amazing news, the license was renewed. Could have been announced there, but was it... NO!

    Very low marks to Kate Piaz, Sapience and Turbine!

    J_Rad

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    I played AC and AC:2

    This is what the community looked like and sounded like just before they pulled the plug.


    HD was a gigantic flop. Do not take my word for it Just go on any server and go to any new zone and look at the people playing and talk with them. It is Bad.

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    Why renew a drivers license if you have no future plans of driving again?

    Why renew a game license for an MMO if you have no future plans of creating level-cap instances and raids?

    Why charge $60 for a new Xpac that doesn't contain any level-cap instances or raids (not bb skirms, actual instances that let you play your characters as intended).

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    Quote Originally Posted by enginekid88 View Post
    Why renew a drivers license if you have no future plans of driving again?

    Why renew a game license for an MMO if you have no future plans of creating level-cap instances and raids?
    Why ask questions when you won't listen to the answers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sardonyx View Post
    Why ask questions when you won't listen to the answers?

    why post on the forums when all your posts are garbage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannypl View Post
    Players like you amaze me...You enjoy whatever it is you do in the game therefore everything is peachy and anyone that disagrees with you is a whiny rude troll...I hope turbine appreciates your spirited defense of their game.

    I stand by my statement:
    what if anything are the devs actually doing with the game? I don't even think this is even a question of raider vs casual... Look at all the wasted potential there is in LOTRO that could please ALL players:
    - housing
    - Kinships
    - Music system
    - hobbies
    - festivals

    Everything has been neglected...When was the last time you saw a new festival or festival zone in game? When was the last hobby update? How many years have people been making fruitless housing revamp suggestions? I can't help the fact that I'm disappointment with the state of the game and the expansion that I paid for... Call me crazy but I expect more out of an MMO than landscape and solo quests.
    The list you have won't please all players. In fact, there's NOTHING on your list I care about or spent 5 minutes a week worrying about. I have a house I never go to. I have a kinship that has been basically decimated by lack of raids. I don't play music. I don't fish. After the grind started with the war steed cosmetic in Yule 2012 I haven't been to a festival since.

    You're talking about what I call fluff. You may call what I enjoy something else, and that's okay too. I support your desire for what you want and believe it needs attention. I believe attention should also be given to creating group content for end game raiders to play. I also expect more out of an MMO than landscape and solo quests. I expect raids and instances.
    I'd explain it to you, but I'm all out of Puppets and Crayons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enginekid88 View Post
    why post on the forums when all your posts are garbage?
    Why are you still here when you keep saying that you've quit? Surely there's some other forum that could benefit from your... wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sardonyx View Post
    Why are you still here when you keep saying that you've quit? Surely there's some other forum that could benefit from your... wisdom.
    Why are you still here? Tell us all about yourself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by enginekid88 View Post
    Why are you still here? Tell us all about yourself!
    Quality, not quantity enginekid.......
    That starts I guess with people respecting others points of view. I did try and put it tongue-in-cheek and only semi-serious but I guess that's lost on you.- A forum poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felajarko View Post
    Quality, not quantity enginekid.......
    U2

    oh and Turbine as well, lets not forget to tell Turbine to produce a quality product that they charged $60 for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enginekid88 View Post
    U2

    oh and Turbine as well, lets not forget to tell Turbine to produce a quality product that they charged $60 for.
    Many have done so. And they did not sound like a spoiled child. You used to have posts that were really useful, but I can understand that Turbine made you very bitter. The fact you are displaying it in such an undignified manner is surprising.
    That starts I guess with people respecting others points of view. I did try and put it tongue-in-cheek and only semi-serious but I guess that's lost on you.- A forum poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannypl View Post
    Players like you amaze me...You enjoy whatever it is you do in the game therefore everything is peachy and anyone that disagrees with you is a whiny rude troll...I hope turbine appreciates your spirited defense of their game.
    How you managed to glean any of this from me responding to someone else about what is or isn't a rude post is beyond me. You know absolutely nothing about me, my play style, opinion of the current game state -- NOTHING. I didn't say anything, one way or the other, regarding the state of the game. I didn't provide a "spirited defense" of the game. I didn't call or even suggest that anyone who disagrees with me is a whiny troll. All I said (to someone else) is that they should look at a particular post as an example of rudeness. Too bad that post happened to be yours.

    Or they could look to the part of your post that I quoted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felajarko View Post
    Many ..
    you are repeating yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by enginekid88 View Post
    you are repeating yourself
    At least I am saying something, unlike you. Now go back to your Neverwinter.
    That starts I guess with people respecting others points of view. I did try and put it tongue-in-cheek and only semi-serious but I guess that's lost on you.- A forum poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felajarko View Post
    At least I am saying something
    something useless

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannypl View Post
    ...Sigh...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asheron...:_Fallen_Kings

    A major expansion pack for Asheron's Call 2 titled Asheron's Call 2: Legions was announced in October 2004 and was released on May 4, 2005
    Asheron's Call 2: Fallen Kings is a fantasy MMORPG (massively multiplayer online role-playing game) for Microsoft Windows-based PCs which was released on November 22, 2002 and shut down on December 30, 2005

    Gee willikers guess who made that game?

    ...They can shut LOTRO down at anytime, I'm not saying it will be...I don't know and neither do you.
    Funny thing is that AC2 incorporates skill-trees as well... =-) ...

    Onward to December 30, 2014?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enginekid88 View Post
    something useless
    Very sad engine, very sad. Like I said, you say nothing but thinly veiled put downs. Very troll like...... Go back to Neverwinter. You're happy there, remember?
    That starts I guess with people respecting others points of view. I did try and put it tongue-in-cheek and only semi-serious but I guess that's lost on you.- A forum poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    I just wanted to drop in and address the concerns surrounding the license, again. We have said as far back as July of 2013, we plan to support LOTRO for many years to come. I really want to be as clear as possible on this subject to avoid any further confusion or misunderstanding. The license was renewed.

    Sorry, that is a very very very patronizing and rude way to speak to all those if us that have been concerned over the past year.

    Congratulations on getting conformation from your bosses to announce it, but to imply this has always been the case and people have been worried for nothing is simply wrong

    Time and time again numerous people have made posts asking for simple conformation like you have just given, time and time again you were very very vague.

    I personally asked numerous times for you to say those simple words "The license has been renewed" rather than implying you would be working on Lotro for many years to come, as they are very very different things.

    For example, a quick search of my posts brings up this one

    Quote Originally Posted by Glumposneak View Post
    I disagree, that's a very sidestep sort of answer, the sort a politician gives when they don't want to give a firm answer to the question given to them.

    If Sapience made the following comment

    "I can confirm that the license has been extended until at least 2017" then that is a very very clear and simple answer that would put all these discussions to rest. And while requests for a simple conformation have been made numerous times, he still hasn't done so in words that actually confirm they do have the license

    The fact that up until now, no one at Turbine has done so, pretty obviously indicates that they don't have a firm answer yet, sure they are hoping to get it, sure chances are they will, but things could go wrong and until they actually spell it out in English that they do have an extended license, the rumor mills will be raging and it is possible that they might not get it.
    So while I'm very very glad you have the license, to imply this was always the case and we've been complaining for nothing, shows the contempt you seem to show those of us that have real concerns with this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galuhad View Post
    Perhaps that could be added to your signature? Seems people are always wanting to believe it wasn't for some reason
    Actually this is the FIRST time I've seen Sapience utter those words, in the innumerable times this has come up he's never said it to my knowledge.

    Nor this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    We have an agreement that runs through 2017.
    Fact is as far as I see it Turbine have never actually posted a PR bit reporting this, in spite of the fact they know damned well that umpteen thousands of their customers have been concerned about this for a very long time.

    If I'm wrong I'd be happy to read the Press Release which Turbine did publish Sapience, should you care to post a link to it.
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