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    A Mass Transfer to YOUR Server?

    A lot of servers are dying out - especially in the Moors. Many people want action, but don't want the constant RvR and lag associated with Brandywine. I'm trying to organize those who enjoy small group PvP into picking an alternative mass transfer location, in the hopes of creating a mid-high population moors with a retained focus on small group action. I've set an arbitrary minimum of 50 people committed to transferring a character - certainly not enough to serve as a decent moors population in itself, but enough to hopefully get things started. It looks like we'll hit that number relatively soon, and now we need to get some information on what server might be the best choice as a small-group, Brandywine alternative.

    I'm curious about the state of your server. Answers to any of these questions would be much appreciated!

    1) What is the current state of your PvP? Freep dominated? Creep dominated? Flipper dominated?
    2) What is your creep population like? Are there quality tribes? Are there a decent amount of high ranked creeps left playing?
    3) What is your freep population like? PvP kins? High ranked freeps?
    4) Do you currently have Raid v Raid at peak hours?
    5) Would a mass transfer of PvP'ers be welcomed or shunned?
    6) How is your 1v1 scene here? Is it frowned upon with lots of 1v1 gankers and OOC hate? Or are there a decent amount who enjoy it?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harman097 View Post
    A lot of servers are dying out - especially in the Moors. Many people want action, but don't want the constant RvR and lag associated with Brandywine. I'm trying to organize those who enjoy small group PvP into picking an alternative mass transfer location, in the hopes of creating a mid-high population moors with a retained focus on small group action. I've set an arbitrary minimum of 50 people committed to transferring a character - certainly not enough to serve as a decent moors population in itself, but enough to hopefully get things started. It looks like we'll hit that number relatively soon, and now we need to get some information on what server might be the best choice as a small-group, Brandywine alternative.

    I'm curious about the state of your server. Answers to any of these questions would be much appreciated!

    1) What is the current state of your PvP? Freep dominated? Creep dominated? Flipper dominated?
    2) What is your creep population like? Are there quality tribes? Are there a decent amount of high ranked creeps left playing?
    3) What is your freep population like? PvP kins? High ranked freeps?
    4) Do you currently have Raid v Raid at peak hours?
    5) Would a mass transfer of PvP'ers be welcomed or shunned?
    6) How is your 1v1 scene here? Is it frowned upon with lots of 1v1 gankers and OOC hate? Or are there a decent amount who enjoy it?

    Thanks!

    If you're interested in joining in, please /sign here: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...fer-Discussion or contact me via PM.
    1.) Right now I'd say it's borderline even. Not too many of either side, although it looks like the action might finally be picking up.
    2.) Many of our high ranked Creeps seem to have transferred or retired. There are still some left, however. A couple of quality tribes.
    3.) Freep Pop is decent. Same situation as the creeps in terms of high ranks
    4.) Mostly evening RvR lately.
    5. ) I believe it would be welcomed.
    6.) 1v1s are pretty big here. So is ganking :P.
    I've been at the mercy of men just following orders. Never again.

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    We would welcome any xfers, I see signs of Ridder going back to the way it used to be, if slowly. Send me a tell in game, I am usually on Valerial, Thunderstaff or Thunderblades on Ridder. Be glad to roll a greenie with you to show you around
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selebrimbor View Post
    1.) Right now I'd say it's borderline even. Not too many of either side, although it looks like the action might finally be picking up.
    2.) Many of our high ranked Creeps seem to have transferred or retired. There are still some left, however. A couple of quality tribes.
    3.) Freep Pop is decent. Same situation as the creeps in terms of high ranks
    4.) Mostly evening RvR lately.
    5. ) I believe it would be welcomed.
    6.) 1v1s are pretty big here. So is ganking :P.
    The OOC hate has quelled, it was second to none for years here. That is a double edged sword, I for one welcome OOC hate to an extent, as it usually makes for good fights.
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    Server is dead. I came back to check it out and was literally the only person in the moors a few nights ago. As far as Brandy goes it's not constant lag just every once in awhile around the huge fights. It's the last bastion of moors action, there are constant solo's & small groups roaming along with the RvR fights. I've seen names from 7 years ago out there. Might as well bite the bullet and go to where you'll know there are quality players still.
    Punk's dead, you're next!

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    Whats up Soviets, long time no see
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderbowStormshard View Post
    Whats up Soviets, long time no see
    Hey bud, yeah finally granted parole (hah). Nice to see at least one OG holdin down this block still.
    Punk's dead, you're next!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ContraMundum View Post
    Hey bud, yeah finally granted parole (hah). Nice to see at least one OG holdin down this block still.
    the warden gave you a pass eh? ha good to see ya man
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    So let me get this straight. You are inviting us to transfer to the server you deem best, but only fifty players? Do you really think you will get fifty people to transfer or reroll? You know that what ever server you choose will become the biggest troll hive around.

    A noble thought, but I don't think you will be able to command the masses so fluidly.

    And to answer one of your questions, 1v1s are the primary action I see, sometimes it evolves into a zergball, but usually people just log. These people have lives, aside from me and axyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumplinks View Post
    So let me get this straight. You are inviting us to transfer to the server you deem best, but only fifty players?
    We will hold a vote among the people who committed to transferring a character, if we reach 50. I'm simply gathering information about each potential transfer server in a public way that other people can review, too, if they wish. My intention is to provide small write-ups for each server when it comes time to vote, based on responses here, talking to other players, and checking glff and lvl 100, non-anon populations at various times.

    As for the number 50, I have no delusions that 50 will serve as a moors population in itself (although 50 dedicated PvP'ers would probably be an improvement over a lot of moors, at this point). The hope is 50, on top of the natives, will provide a nice initial spark and encourage other people to follow suit, creating a Brandywine alternative for those who aren't as keen on RvR. Hopefully it would give returning natives of that server more reason to stick around, too.

    Do you really think you will get fifty people to transfer or reroll?
    I originally posted it as a shot in the dark, being frustrated myself. We have 30 right now, and a lot of them seem pretty enthusiastic about it. It might not hit 50 - in which case I'll just make the decision to either stay, quit the game, or transfer my main to BW - but it was worth a try. It just seems dumb that its either Brandywine or bust, at this point, when every small-pop server has leftovers that would like to actually find something in the moors on a regular basis. And if a lot of those people are like myself and just want to solo/small-group, why not join up and try to make option b?

    You know that what ever server you choose will become the biggest troll hive around.
    I'm sure you're right, it will attract a few trolls. The ones who've committed that I know personally, however, are quite the opposite (about half, atm). Tbh, though, as a person who tends to just ./popcorn when the trolls come out to play, I'd welcome a couple good ones :P Can make for some great pvp.

    A noble thought, but I don't think you will be able to command the masses so fluidly.
    Perhaps you're right, but what do I have to lose? A couple bucks and some time spent on the forums? You know you wanna join :P

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    I think this is a great idea Harman. I don't know about other servers but on ridder there are quite a few who would be happy to participate in helping action return to the moors. That said the situation currently is pretty dire. There are generally a few 1v1s in the evening which can then turn into 1-2 hours of RvR until one side gets too many numbers and the other logs at which point 1v1s sometimes resume for an hour or so. For the rest of the day though there is absolutely nothing. I think often people come out one by one see nothing out and then leave. When there is action numbers tend to amalgamate relatively quickly indicating there are still pvmpers out there. Based on that I believe most people would be extremely happy if a mass transfer to this server was to materialize. Currently I would say more creeps are needed, or at least creep leaders willing to include anyone online into their raids. I think 50 people would be enough to kick start a server back into action and would entrain even more xfers. On a personal note: please xfer here...although realizing this may not be the best alternative, please keep us posted on where you guys end up as I and I am sure a few others are interested in potentially joining you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ContraMundum View Post
    Server is dead. I came back to check it out and was literally the only person in the moors a few nights ago. As far as Brandy goes it's not constant lag just every once in awhile around the huge fights. It's the last bastion of moors action, there are constant solo's & small groups roaming along with the RvR fights. I've seen names from 7 years ago out there. Might as well bite the bullet and go to where you'll know there are quality players still.
    Cig, while you were gone, a bunch of Riddermark-ians went to Landy and BW with a few more scattered about on different servers. Some of the ones that went to Landy have started migrating to BW, which is where I have transferred most of my toons.

    Sure there is lag and sure I get my ar$e zerged to oblivion, but there is action 24/7 of all kinds which is the most important, imo. Who wants to PvP in a graveyard by yourself?

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    As an aside - It's fun to finally be on the OP side instead of always choosing to be on the underpowered side because I still mainly solo and challenge myself to get a kill inside of a creep zerg. Freeps are still going to get even more op with the new Essence PvP gear and it will be even more fun trying to solo fight a horde. Something you used to be famous for, Cig, you actually might want to dust off your burg for this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RGilthanas View Post
    As an aside - It's fun to finally be on the OP side instead of always choosing to be on the underpowered side because I still mainly solo and challenge myself to get a kill inside of a creep zerg. Freeps are still going to get even more op with the new Essence PvP gear and it will be even more fun trying to solo fight a horde. Something you used to be famous for, Cig, you actually might want to dust off your burg for this one.
    ezmoding ezmoder....that is all

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattg18 View Post
    ezmoding ezmoder....that is all
    Flopicon easy mode? Never. How's that reaver doing buddy?

    Miss you Runicon. Ive got a few toons still in Dark Impulse, some in WKSL on BW. I talk with Goth daily, he aint coming back so DI has no hope. Havent seen Hurth in forever since he got lead. Ive given BW a long time, had some great fights in tribe or kin, solo, or Raid, but I just cant stomach the constant GV camp. Or taking my cappy out to fight 8 spiders with 8 pocket defilers. To each their own, but I'd rather pick up sticks at ridder than that. I am probably suffering from delusions of grandeur that things will be the way they used to be for years here.

    Truth is: They are not. It is sad at most times. But hey, I dont play as much as I used to. My 24/7 time I used to commit is gone, and since I can only play a few hours a week, I will be on ridder doing what I can to help it get better.

    Anyways, wall of text. Alsander owed me 100 purple crystal fragments, and boobicon easy modes
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    Quote Originally Posted by RGilthanas View Post
    Cig, while you were gone, a bunch of Riddermark-ians went to Landy and BW with a few more scattered about on different servers. Some of the ones that went to Landy have started migrating to BW, which is where I have transferred most of my toons.

    Sure there is lag and sure I get my ar$e zerged to oblivion, but there is action 24/7 of all kinds which is the most important, imo. Who wants to PvP in a graveyard by yourself?

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    As an aside - It's fun to finally be on the OP side instead of always choosing to be on the underpowered side because I still mainly solo and challenge myself to get a kill inside of a creep zerg. Freeps are still going to get even more op with the new Essence PvP gear and it will be even more fun trying to solo fight a horde. Something you used to be famous for, Cig, you actually might want to dust off your burg for this one.
    Yeah I saw you out there pushing craids, good stuff bro. I've been on there a week it's been good so far. I don't know I'm still kind of burnt out on burgs, WL's are big, dumb and easy to play buzzed. Although I never messed with a warden too much... and the name Raidino (just checked) is available on Brandy lolol, only the Ridder vet transfers would get it though. I might roll one up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ContraMundum View Post
    Yeah I saw you out there pushing craids, good stuff bro. I've been on there a week it's been good so far. I don't know I'm still kind of burnt out on burgs, WL's are big, dumb and easy to play buzzed. Although I never messed with a warden too much... and the name Raidino (just checked) is available on Brandy lolol, only the Ridder vet transfers would get it though. I might roll one up.
    I saw the tribe name and wondered if it was you. Good to see you there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leksi View Post
    I saw the tribe name and wondered if it was you. Good to see you there
    Thank you Tinder. So the gang is all there, we should be the Brandymark Baddies (then faceroll everyone).
    Punk's dead, you're next!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ContraMundum View Post
    Thank you Tinder. So the gang is all there, we should be the Brandymark Baddies (then faceroll everyone).
    ill be on in tribe tonight, its Revos night out there. Look for OptimusKrime.
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    Pay for my xfer and I'll move my LM and captain over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderbowStormshard View Post
    I talk with Goth daily, he aint coming back so DI has no hope.
    Tell him Turwe said to come back and transfer one last time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderbowStormshard View Post
    ill be on in tribe tonight, its Revos night out there. Look for OptimusKrime.
    I may be out for a bit on warg maybe. I haven't brought any creeps there just yet. Vacation starts tomorrow so I still have some preparing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harman097 View Post
    Tell him Turwe said to come back and transfer one last time!
    Holy cow I forgot your posting name, Turwe. I would transfer to anywhere to play with you in a heartbeat.

    Edit: if your campaign doesnt pan out, come to BW

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGilthanas View Post
    Cig, while you were gone, a bunch of Riddermark-ians went to Landy and BW with a few more scattered about on different servers. Some of the ones that went to Landy have started migrating to BW, which is where I have transferred most of my toons.Sure there is lag and sure I get my ar$e zerged to oblivion, but there is action 24/7 of all kinds which is the most important, imo. Who wants to PvP in a graveyard by yourself? ---------------------As an aside - It's fun to finally be on the OP side instead of always choosing to be on the underpowered side because I still mainly solo and challenge myself to get a kill inside of a creep zerg. Freeps are still going to get even more op with the new Essence PvP gear and it will be even more fun trying to solo fight a horde. Something you used to be famous for, Cig, you actually might want to dust off your burg for this one.
    Quietly Landy has had some good small group action during the day and RvR on prime time. The numbers are pretty close but typically creeps have the edge. So its not just Brandy and nothing else.
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    Maybe I should check out either Brandywine or Landy. Sounds like it's more fun than Ridder atm.

    I'm keeping a home base on Ridder, but the dead-ness (I just made a word!) of the server is starting to get to me.

    I have a WL in TWKSL, maybe I'll dust it off.
    I've been at the mercy of men just following orders. Never again.

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    While I have a couple of freeps still on Ridder, the bulk of all my toons, including all my creeps still reside on BW. The action there has been nice the past few nights, so ill keep creeping there. I still hold hope that ridder will pick up, but it is a challenge. I ride around with my mini for hours on end and flip ops and explore the delving or take relics cause there is little else to do. There are some good small group fights, but not common.

    Crime, was good to fight beside you last night. Seems we bring our Ridder flair still, eff it attitude lol
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