Quote Originally Posted by HeirOfNumenor View Post
The definition of "late Fall" according to Turbine is unknown at this time - even to Turbine...


(sorry Maartena - I couldn't resist )
Just to mess things upp, I think we should use the Swedish (and Finnish) definition. No set dates, it all depends on the temperature

From Wikipedia:

"In Sweden and Finland, meteorologists use a non-calendar based definition for the seasons based on the temperature. Spring begins when the daily averaged temperature permanently rises above 0 °C, summer begins when the temperature permanently rises above +10 °C, summer ends when the temperature permanently falls below +10 °C and winter begins when the temperature permanently falls below 0 °C. "Permanently" here means that the daily averaged temperature has remained above or below the limit for seven consecutive days. This implies two things: first, the seasons do not begin at fixed dates but must be determined by observation and are known only after the fact; and second, a new season begins at different dates in different parts of the country."