Bullroarer Update 23 (Build #1) - Preview and General Feedback

[Fraushgrish2]

GL HF all , keep supporting pay to win.


https://imgur.com/a/RiCNrLw

PS. That description on ''Hero's'' lootbox almost killed me.

top game, we complain thats its pay to win...what do they do? MAKE IT MORE PAY TO WINi would honestly be fine with lootboxes if the instances didnt have daily locks

[B749]

GL HF all , keep supporting pay to win.


https://imgur.com/a/RiCNrLw

PS. That description on ''Hero's'' lootbox almost killed me.

Meanwhile the new crafted Morale/Power potions be like:



Thanks for listening to the playerbase SSG... *facepalm* You really did manage to get it all wrong. Congratulations!

[Silky]

Meanwhile the new crafted Morale/Power potions be like:



Thanks for listening to the playerbase SSG... *facepalm* You really did manage to get it all wrong. Congratulations!

[Formengil]

eriador new map

"Michael Delving"?

[Fraushgrish2]

Kudos to the world building. The landscape is once again very nicely done



eriador new map

uM DOES THAT SAY MICHAEL DELVING???

[Beki_0000]

I am new to testing on Bullroarer. I have downloaded the initial files and now I'm trying to load the patch. I'm getting an update error and the patch won't download. The initial patch I have is from the last release. Should I uninstall and re-download? It's my understanding that Bullroarer should patch as if it were a "regular" update on the servers. It is not the dreaded 201 error. Any suggestions as to what else to try? (I'm running Win 10 if that helps any)

[miriadel]

uM DOES THAT SAY MICHAEL DELVING???

lol it really does XD SSG please put it first on the list of typos to correct

[Pontin_Finnberry]

top game, we complain thats its pay to win...what do they do? MAKE IT MORE PAY TO WINi would honestly be fine with lootboxes if the instances didnt have daily locks

I have issues with people saying it pay to win, when you get everything just by doing the content you get, saying it P2W makes no sense to me. just saying

eriador new map

I love this new map they did great job.

[aljbookworm]

So I patched the bullroar client and logged in but when i try to actually get on the server i just get the below message.
Any idea what the problem is?

[Fraushgrish2]

I have issues with people saying it pay to win, when you get everything just by doing the content you get, saying it P2W makes no sense to me. just saying

The game atm is completly pay to win, you say just run the content to get the item but you can the content has a one day lock on it so if you luck out and get the item you still can only do it once per day while someone can just pay 20 buck and full gear in 30 seconds fair? Not pay to win?

[Pontin_Finnberry]

The game atm is completly pay to win, you say just run the content to get the item but you can the content has a one day lock on it so if you luck out and get the item you still can only do it once per day while someone can just pay 20 buck and full gear in 30 seconds fair? Not pay to win?

Nope its not cause its not forcing it, its your choice, you either can pay to move faster or wait awhile and do it again next day, all up to you.

[kudurru1]

Meanwhile the new crafted Morale/Power potions be like:

This is quite funny. My scholar can't wait to make some of those "highly desirable consumables". I will make a fortune.

[Rimenuir]

Nope its not cause its not forcing it, its your choice, you either can pay to move faster or wait awhile and do it again next day, all up to you.

And you dont see a problem with that, at all? You dont think thats p2w in any sort of way?

[fmac81]

So I patched the bullroar client and logged in but when i try to actually get on the server i just get the below message.
Any idea what the problem is?

I get the exact same problem here, had made a different thread about it. Are you on Mac by chance? I'm re-downloading the whole darn client to see if it fixes the issue... all this after waiting out 3300 files initially on a bad client lol. Will keep you posted.

Best of luck,
Throllo

[aljbookworm]

yes i am on a mac, the br client worked the first time i downloaded it but this time, just get the error.

[Fraushgrish2]

Nope its not cause its not forcing it, its your choice, you either can pay to move faster or wait awhile and do it again next day, all up to you.

And you dont see a problem with that, at all? You dont think thats p2w in any sort of way?

already answered getting the item faster is paying to win

[treato]

The game atm is completly pay to win, you say just run the content to get the item but you can the content has a one day lock on it so if you luck out and get the item you still can only do it once per day while someone can just pay 20 buck and full gear in 30 seconds fair? Not pay to win?

It is pay for convenience.

Gold bullets that penetrate armor that cannot be earned by in-game play...i.e. I can hurt you but you can't hurt me unless you pay $$...or armor that makes you invincible that cannot be earned by game-play - is pay to win.

Anything that can be bought, but also earned by game-play no matter how long it takes, is not pay 2 win. If $$$ gear allowed you to "win" the game and the other didn't, it would be pay 2 win. Both kinds of gear allow you to "win" but one is down the road - still same content to "win".

[Knight.]

Really SSG. Took our request for % based morale & power pots and planning to put it straight into store / lootbox?

So we can now have tanks who can heal 2k morale every 2 mins (with crafted pots) Vs others who can heal 70% morale every minute?

I got no issues with monetisation (within reason) - stick to cosmetics, mounts, housing items, QoL features etc. such as a new training dummies for kin houses and stay away from best in slot gear and key consumables ... You don't think this breaks the game or in the very least has an adverse effect on it?

[Raymore]

Yeah, Michael Delving. Brother to Fredo Delving. He broke his heart you know.

[Cupelixx]

It is pay for convenience.

Gold bullets that penetrate armor that cannot be earned by in-game play...i.e. I can hurt you but you can't hurt me unless you pay $$...or armor that makes you invincible that cannot be earned by game-play - is pay to win.

Anything that can be bought, but also earned by game-play no matter how long it takes, is not pay 2 win. If $$$ gear allowed you to "win" the game and the other didn't, it would be pay 2 win. Both kinds of gear allow you to "win" but one is down the road - still same content to "win".

What? Allowing someone to pay for a shortcut to the best gear without earning it, having an advantage over other people who either have to pay also or grind for a long time for that gear? That's basically pay2win defined.

[Fraushgrish2]

Really SSG. Took our request for % based morale & power pots and planning to put it straight into store? (please clarify)

So we can now have tanks who can heal 2k morale every 2 mins (with crafted pots) Vs others who can heal 70% morale every minute?

I got no issues with monetisation (within reason) - stick to cosmetics, mounts, housing items, QoL features etc. such as a new training dummies for kin houses and stay away from best in slot gear and key consumables ... You don't think this breaks the game or in the very least has an adverse effect on it?

This is a lootbox item you cannot purchase it, also THE LOCKS ON THE INSTANCES ARE RIDICULOUS im fine with whats happening with lootboxes (although this item is way too op) just keep locks of instances dont shove lootboxes in our face

[hanxcve]

This is a lootbox item you cannot purchase it, also THE LOCKS ON THE INSTANCES ARE RIDICULOUS im fine with whats happening with lootboxes (although this item is way too op) just keep locks of instances dont shove lootboxes in our face

Agreed. Instance loot locks are a bad idea because you are locking your customers out of their content in which they paid for. It promotes running it once a day for 10 minutes with nothing else to do with even more RNG involved

[NeoBasilisk]

This is a lootbox item you cannot purchase it, also THE LOCKS ON THE INSTANCES ARE RIDICULOUS im fine with whats happening with lootboxes (although this item is way too op) just keep locks of instances dont shove lootboxes in our face

At least there are 2 3-man instances this time and hopefully a well-designed 6-man, so the daily locks may be less of an issue compared to Mordor where pretty much the only thing people ran is CoS.

[Hallandil]

Nope its not cause its not forcing it, its your choice, you either can pay to move faster or wait awhile and do it again next day, all up to you.

That’s not really how that works. The mere fact that *actual* accomplishment in the game can be obtained via a monetary transaction makes it P2W. That aside, beyond the Hero’s box / Morale Pots: It’s not necessarily worse amounts of P2W, just more of the same beast (In this idiom it’s still the same one that’s soiled itself on the rug).

[dselden]

top game, we complain thats its pay to win...what do they do? MAKE IT MORE PAY TO WINi would honestly be fine with lootboxes if the instances didnt have daily locks

I think it's time for those with any priority on gameplay integrity to leave LOTRO to be honest. I realize that's not what most LOTRO players are focused on, but those who are at endgame would likely be much more satisfied playing another game.