Exploiters on Anor?!

[Barrabornam]

I´m a little bit worried about the actual situation on Anor. Two kins (if there are any gms who would like to know their names, pm me) are in violation of the following:
Code of Conduct: Rule 17'
You will not exploit, distribute or publicly communicate any Game error, miscue or bug which gives an unintended advantage within the Game world.

They have violated this rule many times. Since being caught by the community having done this, they are now even taunting world chat, encouraging players to report them as gm's will not ban them.
(However, GM's should ban them, as they are in violation of this rule by gaining an unintended advantage within the game world, through the use of exploiting).

Players within the community have repeatedly reported the exploiters over the past few days and as of yet no such action that we are aware of has been taken by the gm's. Can we expect SSG to enforce its own rules?

We can provide proof of the exploiting that is taking place on Anor, with names & screenshots both in-game & on discord of their exploitation.

[Aranaan]

I´m a little bit worried about the actual situation on Arnor. Two kins (if there are any gms who would like to know their names, pm me) are in violation of the following:
Code of Conduct: Rule 17'
You will not exploit, distribute or publicly communicate any Game error, miscue or bug which gives an unintended advantage within the Game world.

They have violated this rule many times. Since being caught by the community having done this, they are now even taunting world chat, encouraging players to report them as gm's will not ban them.
(However, GM's should ban them, as they are in violation of this rule by gaining an unintended advantage within the game world, through the use of exploiting).

Players within the community have repeatedly reported the exploiters over the past few days and as of yet no such action that we are aware of has been taken by the gm's. Can we expect SSG to enforce its own rules?

We can provide proof of the exploiting that is taking place on Anor, with names & screenshots both in-game & on discord of their exploitation.

Name and shame them here as well.
Add screenshot and all infomration you have on them, screenshot of ingame Reporting and responding.
Add the exploiter to Your friend list, is a one way to tell if they got banned or not.

[Yarbro]

Name and shame them here as well.
Add screenshot and all infomration you have on them, screenshot of ingame Reporting and responding.
Add the exploiter to Your friend list, is a one way to tell if they got banned or not.

Naming and shaming will get you a Forum warning/ban/permaban, no matter how deserved the naming and shaming.

[Barrabornam]

Naming and shaming will get you a Forum warning/ban/permaban, no matter how deserved the naming and shaming.

Exactly.

[Eowene]

so this isn't taunting? this went on for some time as they taunted people. another words saying, Ha, we got away with breaking the rules. (taunting players)

https://imgur.com/a/EBjYu0k


*edit*
Guy I was replying to deleted his comment. But I shall leave this here, for anybody else who is suggesting these 2 kinships are not taunting players&gm's

[Frisco]

I don't think there's any need for a witch hunt. SSG has hundreds of tickets about the transgressions due to a coordinated campaign, and they will make a decision. I've seen chat, and the "taunting" you describe (though I've never seen anyone say anything to the effect of "report us, we won't be banned) is always started by a few people on your side of the issue. I get the feeling you know this and are just starting this thread to keep the issue visible and to work up the community so that SSG will see it as a bigger issue than you feel they currently do.

[Frisco]

so this isn't taunting? this went on for some time as they taunted people. another words saying, Ha, we got away with breaking the rules. (taunting players)

https://imgur.com/a/EBjYu0k


*edit*
Guy I was replying to deleted his comment. But I shall leave this here, for anybody else who is suggesting these 2 kinships are not taunting players&gm's

I think those comments are directed at you and your goon squad who insist on starting world chat drama every day, taking every opportunity to yell "enjoy your ban!" or try and get people whipped up into a frenzy by spouting a bunch of made-up nonsense. I think it's only natural to want to respond to your harassment. I don't think they are of the opinion that a ban is impossible, they're merely poking fun at your very overblown response to the incident.

[Eowene]

I think those comments are directed at you and your goon squad who insist on starting world chat drama every day, taking every opportunity to yell "enjoy your ban!" or try and get people whipped up into a frenzy by spouting a bunch of made-up nonsense. I think it's only natural to want to respond to your harassment. I don't think they are of the opinion that a ban is impossible, they're merely poking fun at your very overblown response to the incident.

Its amazing how trying to make people aware of a collection of people exploiting/cheating
Makes you a goon squad or a witch hunt.
Ive been on all day today, did I start something in world? No.
There was a 5min conversation on Saturday morning, Sunday evening and Monday morning.
You make it sound like a 12hour lynch mob.

Not at any point have u stated about the fact they have openly admitted to exploiting and don't care that they did it.

They broke the rules and as such should receive the full wrath of Ssg.

If SSG do not reinforce their own rules and ban these exploiters, what does it say about SSG. A company that is not willing to enforce its own rules on those that break it. And the worst rule at that, cheating.

[xVince]

I think those comments are directed at you and your goon squad who insist on starting world chat drama every day, taking every opportunity to yell "enjoy your ban!" or try and get people whipped up into a frenzy by spouting a bunch of made-up nonsense. I think it's only natural to want to respond to your harassment. I don't think they are of the opinion that a ban is impossible, they're merely poking fun at your very overblown response to the incident.

If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.

[Frisco]

If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.

Definitely agree. I've had multiple conversations with Ramsey about his misconceptions, and for a while it seems like he starts to act like a human being and understand that he may be mistaken in his assumptions, then at some point this big heavy gate of cognitive dissonance slams down in his brain and he just starts back at the beginning.

Unfortunately, as much as I'd like to correct him here for the benefit of the people reading the thread who may not know the details, or who only know the inaccurate ones contained in the multiple videos made regarding the situation, I don't think this is an appropriate place to be talking about this. I'm content to let SSG do their thing. I don't think they'll be swayed by the barrage of threads and reports and world chat harassment. They can simply look at the characters involved and see that most of the stuff being said in accusation is inaccurate, or completely fabricated.

[Eowene]

Definitely agree. I've had multiple conversations with Ramsey about his misconceptions, and for a while it seems like he starts to act like a human being and understand that he may be mistaken in his assumptions, then at some point this big heavy gate of cognitive dissonance slams down in his brain and he just starts back at the beginning.

Unfortunately, as much as I'd like to correct him here for the benefit of the people reading the thread who may not know the details, or who only know the inaccurate ones contained in the multiple videos made regarding the situation, I don't think this is an appropriate place to be talking about this. I'm content to let SSG do their thing. I don't think they'll be swayed by the barrage of threads and reports and world chat harassment. They can simply look at the characters involved and see that most of the stuff being said in accusation is inaccurate, or completely fabricated.

Im sure what they will see is.
Characters with mirkwood titles.
Characters having completed mirkwood deeds/quests
Characters having completed enedwaith deeds/quests
Characters wearing full Orthanc raid said (unobtainable at Lalia's Market)

All obtained by exploiting the auto-kick zones SSG put in place to avoid exactly this.
(I won't say how you did it, though should an SSG staff member wish to know, ask. I have screenshots of how they do it)


Stop defending exploiters/cheats.
Its pathetic.

What they did is in complete violation of rule 17 of the code of conduct and as such, due to the extreme nature. They should be banned.

[Dorothir]

Im sure what they will see is.
Characters with mirkwood titles.
Characters having completed mirkwood deeds/quests
Characters having completed enedwaith deeds/quests
Characters wearing full Orthanc raid said (unobtainable at Lalia's Market)

All obtained by exploiting the auto-kick zones SSG put in place to avoid exactly this.
(I won't say how you did it, though should an SSG staff member wish to know, ask. I have screenshots of how they do it)


Stop defending exploiters/cheats.
Its pathetic.

What they did is in complete violation of rule 17 of the code of conduct and as such, due to the extreme nature. They should be banned.

People have been able to access post-cap content already? I can't even see how that would be possible if SSG locked it all off correc- oh, I see the problem now.

[Vanyaerunanethiel]

Name and shame them here as well.
Add screenshot and all infomration you have on them, screenshot of ingame Reporting and responding.
Add the exploiter to Your friend list, is a one way to tell if they got banned or not.

Yea "do take his wise advice" Do not be a fool,Randir. The thread is a mistake and it will either erased entirely or locked down, possibly deleted. Naming and shaming was always against Code of Conduct and name calling in game {World chat} is against the rules aas well.

Even if a person is eventually an exploiter or have broken the rules , constant bashing ,insulting or simply obsessing over it bring you in a same pot. Hate never helped anyone and these types of threads are doomed possibly the users who create them , sooner or later until they learn it finally , but it will far too late.

The thread will be short lived. if you wish to report someone, be reasonable and do in private. The F7 Ticket system exists for a reason. Taking these type of subjects in public forum and even encouraging further chaos is a dull attempt.

Nay you cannot be certain if a player got banned. The last date online might inaccurate or bugged and even tracking if player gets banned is an utter waste of time.


Small minds discuss people.

[Eowene]

Naming and shaming was always against Code of Conduct

No names, or kin names has been given.

[Eowene]

People have been able to access post-cap content already? I can't even see how that would be possible if SSG locked it all off correc- oh, I see the problem now.

Yup, you got discord m8?

[Dorothir]

Yup, you got discord m8?

Nope, but we do have the other forums that's always willing to take some juicy goss.

[Cordovan]

Naming and shaming will get you a Forum warning/ban/permaban, no matter how deserved the naming and shaming.

Yes. We do not conduct public trials based on perceived or real transgressions. This is not the place for it.

Name and shame them here as well.
Add screenshot and all infomration you have on them, screenshot of ingame Reporting and responding.
Add the exploiter to Your friend list, is a one way to tell if they got banned or not.

No.

I´m a little bit worried about the actual situation on Anor. Two kins (if there are any gms who would like to know their names, pm me) are in violation of the following:
Code of Conduct: Rule 17'
You will not exploit, distribute or publicly communicate any Game error, miscue or bug which gives an unintended advantage within the Game world.

They have violated this rule many times. Since being caught by the community having done this, they are now even taunting world chat, encouraging players to report them as gm's will not ban them.
(However, GM's should ban them, as they are in violation of this rule by gaining an unintended advantage within the game world, through the use of exploiting).

Players within the community have repeatedly reported the exploiters over the past few days and as of yet no such action that we are aware of has been taken by the gm's. Can we expect SSG to enforce its own rules?

We can provide proof of the exploiting that is taking place on Anor, with names & screenshots both in-game & on discord of their exploitation.

We are aware of the situation, including the broader picture (we think), but we will not be discussing this here. If further posts about this topic are made on the forums, the threads will be deleted, and the poster removed.

Per usual, especially if you have screenshots supporting your claim, make sure to send in a harassment report.