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    Quote Originally Posted by Valakircka View Post
    this is my 1st try to create a plain but interesting viking style outfit, not exactly happy about the outcome, i will explain at the end of the post........
    so........
    the helmet is from the starting stouts heavy armour set
    the vest is the tough jacket of anorien mercy
    no pants ( the vest is covering it and makes the legs look naked)
    the gloves and boots are from the Isengard Dispeler set
    the shield is a cheap one you can get from low lvl quests or npc merchants
    and the sword is the Bright steel sword, a low lvl recipe

    as i said above i m not exactly happy with the outcome
    my main problem is, tho i like the vest cos its a great design with lots of accurate decoration elements,
    i dislike the naked legs! rest of the outfit its great and it will be better if i manage to find a most accurate plain flat round shield but with some color decoration..........
    i shall return with more photos as soon as posible.....
    I think You've succeeded very well. *claps* Well done !!!

    Yes with Stout Axes we have finally gotten a more closed metal helmet (not totally closed but still) than the usual open in the front ones. One of the few reasons I wanted Stout-axes to get my hand on that hlmet as well as their axe. However that one detail that sticks out on the top of the helmet still annoys me. It reminds me of one of those German/Preussan early WWI helmets almost, a relic that survived from the 1800's military design I guess. That detail sticking up looks more like something You'd see on a parade or ceremonial outfit than in acctual combat.



    The Germans quickly replaced it for combat too during WWI with the more practical M16 Stahlhelm (model 16) more protecting design, that then was in use (even if modified like the m35 m40 etc) for a long time and even inspired later helmet designs.

    For some reason Turbine and now SSG chose to put such things on top of quite a few helmets. They would be totally unpractical in sword or axe fight as it would be easy to swing at it and make the helmet either fall off, or at the very least be very uncomfortable around the neck strap if anyone did hit that sticking up piece with a very hard blow. Potentially dislocate the helmet and cover the sight too. Not a thing You'd want to happen in combat. I do get it on parade or even ceremonial, like the winged helmet of the Minas Tirith Fountain Guards. But as pratical in combat for the common soldier, naaa, but oh well I digress.

    I would much prefer more helmets like this in the game.





    Well You get the idea.

    We have some designs like that in LoTRO, but often they made the part covering the eyes in some weird dye and more look like some Venecian carnival mask than acctual helmet face protection. Over designed in my opinion, ruining the helmets looks.

    I'm not saying helmets in real life history were never overly designed and had things sticking up and all kinds of ornaments etc. Especially as parade outfits or for ceremonial use. Royal Guards etc. Sometimes to emphasis rank or status, but the most common soldiers did not have that as often, even if sometimes they did. Even things that served no partical function than to simply signify a certain rank, regiment or just be decorative. Sometimes it can even look very pretty in my opinion, but not all the time and it should be more common with not so decorative helmets, as the common figher or soldier probably could not afford it. Just as it was with the colour "purple" in history, as it was way to rare and expensive to produce from a snail/mollusc, only the most wealthy wore it and in some places not even allowed for anyone else.

    If SSG could also revisit some of the old designs and improve them, like I really like that shield but for the part that it's like a octagon almost and not round. I understand that it's easier to not design rounded edges and instead make more sharp edges, especially back in 2007, but nowdays it looks outdated. Turbine/SSG have designed shields later than that that are more round in shape but still not this one that I would have liked alot if it was only more round. If some like this octagon shape on a shield, then design another one that looks the same, wood and iron cross and all, just make it round.

    All that being said (and non of it being negative criticism of your combination), I do think You have come up with a very nice result. I much prefer this to say colourful over designed outfits. Bravo !!! *thumbs up*

    Disclaimer: Remember that we are only talking taste here. I have my taste, others have theirs. If others prefer bright colours and overly deisgned elaborate outfits they have every right to do so. My taste is just my taste and subjective, so is everyone elses. No one is right or wrong in taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord.Funk View Post
    I think You've succeeded very well. *claps* Well done !!!

    Yes with Stout Axes we have finally gotten a more closed metal helmet (not totally closed but still) than the usual open in the front ones. One of the few reasons I wanted Stout-axes to get my hand on that hlmet as well as their axe. However that one detail that sticks out on the top of the helmet still annoys me. It reminds me of one of those German/Preussan early WWI helmets almost, a relic that survived from the 1800's military design I guess. That detail sticking up looks more like something You'd see on a parade or ceremonial outfit than in acctual combat......................

    For some reason Turbine and now SSG chose to put such things on top of quite a few helmets. They would be totally unpractical in sword or axe fight as it would be easy to swing at it and make the helmet either fall off, or at the very least be very uncomfortable around the neck strap if anyone did hit that sticking up piece with a very hard blow. Potentially dislocate the helmet and cover the sight too. Not a thing You'd want to happen in combat. I do get it on parade or even ceremonial, like the winged helmet of the Minas Tirith Fountain Guards. But as pratical in combat for the common soldier, naaa, but oh well I digress. I would much prefer more helmets like this in the game...................

    Well You get the idea.

    We have some designs like that in LoTRO, but often they made the part covering the eyes in some weird dye and more look like some Venecian carnival mask than acctual helmet face protection. Over designed in my opinion, ruining the helmets looks.

    I'm not saying helmets in real life history were never overly designed and had things sticking up and all kinds of ornaments etc. Especially as parade outfits or for ceremonial use. Royal Guards etc. Sometimes to emphasis rank or status, but the most common soldiers did not have that as often, even if even sometimes they did. Even things that served no partical function than to simply signify a certain rank, regiment or just be decorative. Sometimes it can even look very pretty in my opinion, but not all the time and it should be more common with not so decorative helmets, as the common figher or soldier probably could not afford it. Just as it was with the colour "purple" in history, as it was way to rare and expensive to produce from a snail/mollusc, only the most wealthy wore it and in some places not even allowed for anyone else.

    If SSG could also revisit some of the old designs and improve them, like I really like that shield but for the part that it's like a octagon almost and not round. I understand that it's easier to not design rounded edges and instead make more sharp edges, especially back in 2007, but nowdays it looks outdated. Turbine/SSG have designed shields later than that that are more round in shape but still not this one that I would have liked alot if it was only more round. If some like this octafon shape on a helmet, then design another one that looks the same, just round.

    All that being said (and non of it being negative criticism of your combination), I do think You have come up with a very nice result. I much prefer this to say colourful over designed outfits. Bravo !!! *thumbs up*

    Disclaimer: Remember that we are only talking taste here. I have my taste, others have theirs. If others prefer bright colours and overly deisgned elaborate outfits they have every right to do so. My taste is just my taste and subjective, so is everyone elses. No one is right or wrong in taste.
    thanks for the reply and i agree with you about the pointed edge...... what i ve read about it points like this were use to hit the enemy with the head so it was used like a weapon..... that was a fact early in the dark ages .......
    and in ancient times, mostly for barbaric tribes that were not fighting in line or shield wall.
    When vikings starting moving out to their raids ofc they had not pointy edges on their combat helmets(as far as i know and read), or if they had was only to bring fear.........
    even the roman infantry had no edges on helmet.
    im still working on this outfit and many parts might change a lot, for the headpiece i might use the medium helmet from the throne of the dread terror raid...... its quite plain with reinforced top but not point edge, mask and neck cover.
    for vest i d like something with leather and chain mail.......
    there is hauberk from dunland which i have but i dont like it so much........
    and ofc i believe istill have somewhere the helmet from dunland with the mask and the chain mail that looks pretty cool for a viking outfit, but i wanted to have, somehow, a bit of the face.......
    now about the colors........ this design needs plain earth colors with no dying if posible....... vikings had not a plenty of dying .......
    on the other hand, some pages above, i ve had published my guardian in a swan (type) armour set......
    but same as you i dislike huge, not normal, armour sets, example the one released latelly with minas morgul!
    i ll keep searching till i ll find the best to my taste!
    what i have in my mind and my idea of creating a viking armour came from, is the last scene of the viking series, where Bjiorn Ironside is sitting on a hill above his town in a fur cloak.......
    i d like to start a petition for more horses like the one of the forochel! a greywhite furry one would be great!
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    I think you will find some Dunland gear more apt for coat/chest, they are pretty realistic in that sense... Viking series fan here as well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marancil View Post
    I think you will find some Dunland gear more apt for coat/chest, they are pretty realistic in that sense... Viking series fan here as well...
    tbh i dont really like dunland skins tho i d love them at that times......... maybe cos i ve seen them used a lot..........
    i have at least 6 alts passed from there and i have kept all the interesting parts coz of their unique skins but i need to find something more ........ i dont know.... but i will when i ll find it
    the one i have posted, in my mind is a dark ages outfit but i ll come back wit something of the viking era of raiding and exploration in the 8th century.
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    The helmet with the mask and chain mail parts isn't Dunlending, but from the Easterlings. There is a version that you can find in the shop, I think it is called the Mask of Rhun. For the chainmail/leather combo, you might have as well a look at the dwarf cosmetics of the Ered Mithrin, although they are so geometric that I am not sure if you like them (the vikings sported these snakey animal knot designs on their rune slabs and later on their stave churches, which are strikingly different from the dwarves' octogons). The 'fur cloak' (albeit a bit thin) may be found in the cosmetics of the Anduin Vales (think Beorning). You can combine that with the crafted shoulders (light or medium) from the Westfold Guild recipe sets, which would make it look nearly like Conan the Barbarian.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Polymachos View Post
    The helmet with the mask and chain mail parts isn't Dunlending, but from the Easterlings. There is a version that you can find in the shop, I think it is called the Mask of Rhun. For the chainmail/leather combo, you might have as well a look at the dwarf cosmetics of the Ered Mithrin, although they are so geometric that I am not sure if you like them (the vikings sported these snakey animal knot designs on their rune slabs and later on their stave churches, which are strikingly different from the dwarves' octogons). The 'fur cloak' (albeit a bit thin) may be found in the cosmetics of the Anduin Vales (think Beorning). You can combine that with the crafted shoulders (light or medium) from the Westfold Guild recipe sets, which would make it look nearly like Conan the Barbarian.


    Greetings, Polymachos
    thanks Pol!
    the mask of rhun is something i will never use, its so ungly!
    the shoulders of westfold is something i have to look but if i recall they look huge thats why i premer this fur mantle i use .......
    about the cloak from the vales ......... i ve seen people using it, if im right its furry but it looks thin,
    while the others from forochel are having the right tickness and skins that look plain enough in a leather/fur combination, only bad is the hood........
    ered mithrin cosmetics ........ only the furry shoulders from the seasonal barter are somehow good, i already have them but the fur mantle looks better for me
    rest of the dwarf cosmetics are not plain enough for what i have in mind...........
    about the shield.......... found 2-3 round ones.....but...... 1st is the red with the hawk, 2nd is a wooden like with tooo much green/yellow, n the 3rd looks like arabic metal bucklers so a NO again........
    if i recall there r 1 or 2 more round colored shield skins in the game so till i lay my hands on them i ll stick with the one on the photo!
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    The medium shoulders are bulky, but the light ones not so much. If you remove the green portion by bleaching, they will fit in well.

    I forgot one specific helmet, though, because I don't like it much. It tends to turn up in treasure chests (those which you have to find for a deed) and also drops every now and then. The easiest way to get this mesh, is to talk to the medium armor vendor of the Skirmish Camp, and get the topmost item of the level 95 armor set.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Polymachos View Post
    The medium shoulders are bulky, but the light ones not so much. If you remove the green portion by bleaching, they will fit in well.

    I forgot one specific helmet, though, because I don't like it much. It tends to turn up in treasure chests (those which you have to find for a deed) and also drops every now and then. The easiest way to get this mesh, is to talk to the medium armor vendor of the Skirmish Camp, and get the topmost item of the level 95 armor set.


    Greetings, Polymachos
    i ll check them asap.........
    meanwhile i ll be so happy if i ever manage to dress up as close as posible like this:
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    Simple outfit today, and dance for the pig.



    • Head: Helm of the Erebor Animal-friend - Skirmish camp light armor bater
    • Chest: Sightseer's Jacket - Spring festival barter
    • Leggings: Tattered Leggings of the Dunland Sage - Dunland quest reward
    • Feet: Padded Shoes - Any Light Armour vendor
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    Identify a sword model

    Could someone help me with identifying a particular sword model?

    I'm looking for a one-handed sword model that looks like this sword show below.

    The pictures show are of Golgallon's Sword, which is two-handed, but I know I've seen one handed versions as well. I'm looking to see if there is a quest I've missed that gives it as a reward or any other way to get it.





    Thanks alot for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiklasWB View Post
    Could someone help me with identifying a particular sword model?

    I'm looking for a one-handed sword model that looks like this sword show below.

    The pictures show are of Golgallon's Sword, which is two-handed, but I know I've seen one handed versions as well. I'm looking to see if there is a quest I've missed that gives it as a reward or any other way to get it.





    Thanks alot for your help.
    I believe the one-handed version is an Anorien metalsmith recipe, “Anorien valorous/dextrous sword”. Should be auto-granted when you reach Anorien tier - or find a weaponsmith to make one for you...

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    Available for Marks at Skirmish camp Weapons. Level around 90- 100, don't really recall exactly. Or its very similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marancil View Post
    Available for Marks at Skirmish camp Weapons. Level around 90- 100, don't really recall exactly. Or its very similar.
    Thank you! It was a bit lower, I think 75 or 80, but it is available from the Skirmish Camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiklasWB View Post
    Thank you! It was a bit lower, I think 75 or 80, but it is available from the Skirmish Camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiklasWB View Post
    Could someone help me with identifying a particular sword model?

    I'm looking for a one-handed sword model that looks like this sword show below.

    The pictures show are of Golgallon's Sword, which is two-handed, but I know I've seen one handed versions as well. I'm looking to see if there is a quest I've missed that gives it as a reward or any other way to get it.





    Thanks alot for your help.
    There is also a longer two hand version available from some quest (not crataftable I think). I can't remember which quest it is though off the top of my head. The one hand version is craftable though as "TheArtilleryman" mentioned earlier. I use this model for all the various alts I have that wear Minas Tirith soldier and guard style outfits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord.Funk View Post
    There is also a longer two hand version available from some quest (not crataftable I think). I can't remember which quest it is though off the top of my head. The one hand version is craftable though as "TheArtilleryman" mentioned earlier. I use this model for all the various alts I have that wear Minas Tirith soldier and guard style outfits.
    The two-hander is from a quest at Echad Eregion in Eregion, about level 47/48.
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    If you mean Golgallon's sword, from 'Chasing Trouble', it is exactly the two-hander NiklasWB was talking about. On level 47, I couldn't find any quest that rewards you with a similar sword; and the famous Defender of Gwingris has a completely different appearance.


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    Hmmm, I could not find the one-handed nor the two-handed version in the "Cosmetic Weapons Visual Database" in this thread https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...isual-Database either. Or maybe I just missed it, but I looked through all 3 pages of one-handed sword skins and the one page of two-handed greatswords.

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    No, I didn’t see it there either. There is no picture on the wiki either, but it looks like we’ve come up with the solution between us!

    I agree it is an excellent sword. Goes very well with the heavy raid armour from Throne.

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    Another outfit, Rich Hobbit



    • Head: Elegant Top Hat - Figments of Splendour Myrtle Mint
    • Shoulders: Elegant Silk Mantle - Dunland Quest reward
    • Chest: Elegant Riding Jacket - Figments of Splendour Myrtle Mint
    • Back: plain Cloak - any outfitter
    • Leggings: Sightseer's Trousers - Spring festival barter
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    Little Red Riding Hobbit











    head: Plumed hat, red dye, reward from the introductory quests (named Brimmed hat as a world drop)
    shoulders: Scrap-Reinforced Pauldrons of the Khirvisa, red dye, Stout-Axe starter gear for light classes
    chest: Dwarf make Campaigner armour, crimson dye, crafted tailor recipe
    hands: Elegant Riding gloves, barter from Myrtile Mint (figments of splendor)
    legs: Elegant Riding leggings, barter from Myrtile Mint (figments of splendor)
    feet: Elegant Riding boots, barter from Myrtile Mint (figments of splendor)
    back: Cloak of Naire, red dye, spring festival reward
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriadel View Post
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    I like using the old crafted and vendor gear for cosmetics although some of it doesn't dye well.
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    Since my journey has led me into the Misty Mountains, to help Gloín (the legendary father of Gimli!), i found myself in need of warmer gear.

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    Hey there, what are those boots ??? They look familiar, but it's not the furry ones from Yule Festivals. Maybe from Forochel ??? They might go perfect with the outfit I have on my Beorning whom is dressed for cxoldser climates (mostly stuff from wildermore).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elverior View Post
    It´s the new craftable light Chestpiece from Minas Morgul dailys
    Is it the whole light set? I really like the shoulders, gloves and boots.
    Sometimes, no matter how hard you look, there is no best light.


 

 
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