Tolkien Jeopardy!

[Erionor]

Good, now I can add more lace...hmmm, maybe some narrow white lace along the collar?? Ok. now for the riddle...

This is where Shelob's Lair lies..bonus points for what the name means!

Where is Torech Ungol (literally spider-hole or spider-lair)?

[kittykatt]

Well, that is one name for it, I found out..you have the jacket, complete with new lace collar!! (That's the bonus points, lol)

[Erionor]

Well, that is one name for it, I found out..you have the jacket, complete with new lace collar!! (That's the bonus points, lol)

Thanks very much ...

What was the other name?

[kittykatt]

Actually, it's more of a where, a location ..nonetheless, a good job!
"Her lair lies in Cirith Ungol ("the pass of the spider") leading into Mordor."

[Erionor]

Ah right, gotcha!


OK, next one (should be fairly easy ...):

A pair of obscenely immense effigies to a duo of legendary but controversial potentates (well, at least one was controversial)...

[Boraxxe]

Ah right, gotcha!


OK, next one (should be fairly easy ...):

A pair of obscenely immense effigies to a duo of legendary but controversial potentates (well, at least one was controversial)...

What is The Argonath?


John Howe

Statues of Ilsildur and Anarion

Isildur is controversial because he kept the One?

[Erionor]

What is The Argonath?


John Howe

Statues of Ilsildur and Anarion

Isildur is controversial because he kept the One?

That’s the one! Yes, I was thinking he was a great hero for defeating Sauron, but also a weak man for not destroying the ring...

You’re up.

[Boraxxe]

OK, next one:

This member of the fellowship did not celebrate his own birthday.

[kittykatt]

Who was Legolas, who only celebrated his "begetting"? (Elves do not celebrate birthdays,alas..)

[Boraxxe]

Who was Legolas, who only celebrated his "begetting"? (Elves do not celebrate birthdays,alas..)

Well, it seems that I have chosen poor wording for my answer.
I did a bit of research and could not find much of anything about elves celebrating birthdays.
If that is true and they did not, then there are two possible solutions. Legolas, being one of them.

On the other hand, if the answer had been phrased like this:

"This member of the fellowship could not celebrate his birthday." (Exchanging "did not" with "could not"), then there would only be one answer.

As it is I will pass the Jacket on to you kittykatt.
Gratz!

[Wolfhelm]

Well, it seems that I have chosen poor wording for my answer.
I did a bit of research and could not find much of anything about elves celebrating birthdays.
If that is true and they did not, then there are two possible solutions. Legolas, being one of them.

On the other hand, if the answer had been phrased like this:

"This member of the fellowship could not celebrate his birthday." (Exchanging "did not" with "could not"), then there would only be one answer.

As it is I will pass the Jacket on to you kittykatt.
Gratz!

Kitttykatt wins, no argument there. I'd still like to know who your original non-birthday-boy was, Gandalf perhaps?

[Boraxxe]

Kitttykatt wins, no argument there. I'd still like to know who your original non-birthday-boy was, Gandalf perhaps?

You got it. Since Gandalf was Maia he was never really "born" in the sense that we know birth.
He was, er, thought up, or something....

[kittykatt]

Yeppers, that was my first thought,too..Gandalf!! But then I thought...hhmmmm...something here seems a bit, well, different, interesting, something...lol!! So then I found out that Elves celebrate their "begetting", & thought, "That's It!!" I do thank you for the use of the jacket again..guess there are 2 answers, then! We learned something from each other this time!! Yay!!

Ok, now for the new puzzler. Maia are not "born", so they come into existence in a different way.

[Boraxxe]

Ok, now for the new puzzler. Maia are not "born", so they come into existence in a different way.

From The Ainulindalë:

There was Eru, the One, who in Arda is called Ilúvatar; and he made first the Ainur, the Holy Ones, that were the offspring of his thought, and they were with him before aught else was made.

And then:

Then it came to pass that of the Ainur some abode still with Ilúvatar beyond the confines of the World; but others, and among them many of the greatest and most fair, took the leave of Ilúvatar and descended into it. But this condition Ilúvatar made, or it is the necessity of their love, that their power should thenceforward be contained and bounded in the World, to be within it for ever, until it is complete, so that they are its life and it is theirs. And therefore they are named the Valar, the Powers of the World.

And:

With the Valar came other spirits whose being also began before the World, of the same order as the Valar but of less degree. These are the Maiar, the people of the Valar, and their servants and helpers.

So my answer is:

How did the Maiar come to be?

Edit: This is not strictly in the correct "answer/question" format, but its my shot at answering...

[kittykatt]

Boraxxe, your "answer" (or is it question?) is accepted. I think the way I worded it, it would be hard to phrase!! So, have the Jacket, in all it's lacy & pink glory!! Enjoy!!

[Boraxxe]

OK, Next one:

She came to mind at the end of all things.

[Wolfhelm]

OK, Next one:

She came to mind at the end of all things.

I think the following lines were only in the movies, not the book, but I'll quote them here anyway...

Frodo: It's gone! It's done!
Sam: Yes, Mr. Frodo. It's over now.
Frodo: I can see the Shire. The Brandywine River. Bag End. Gandalf's fireworks, the lights, the party tree.
Sam: Rosie Cotton dancing. She had ribbons in her hair. If ever I was to marry someone... it would have been her. It would have been her!
Frodo: I'm glad to be with you, Samwise Gamgee. Here, at the end of all things.

So my guess is "who is Rose Cotton?"

[Boraxxe]

I think the following lines were only in the movies, not the book, but I'll quote them here anyway...

Frodo: It's gone! It's done!
Sam: Yes, Mr. Frodo. It's over now.
Frodo: I can see the Shire. The Brandywine River. Bag End. Gandalf's fireworks, the lights, the party tree.
Sam: Rosie Cotton dancing. She had ribbons in her hair. If ever I was to marry someone... it would have been her. It would have been her!
Frodo: I'm glad to be with you, Samwise Gamgee. Here, at the end of all things.

So my guess is "who is Rose Cotton?"

You have the correct answer!

And I think you have correctly quoted the movie.
And I think Peter Jackson took me for a ride...
I was sure that that line was directly quoted from the text, but, no.
There is a line about "the end of all things", but not related to Rosie.

Your turn!

[Wolfhelm]

You have the correct answer!

And I think you have correctly quoted the movie.
And I think Peter Jackson took me for a ride...
I was sure that that line was directly quoted from the text, but, no.
There is a line about "the end of all things", but not related to Rosie.

Your turn!

Thanks Boraxxe.

Youthful and faithful, this warrior received a bountiful reward for his honor.

[Wolfhelm]

Youthful and faithful, this warrior received a bountiful reward for his honor.

Ok, it may be time for a clue.

This young warrior was also a king, he lived and died in the Third Age.

[Estelwyn]

Ok, it may be time for a clue.

This young warrior was also a king, he lived and died in the Third Age.

Who is Eorl the Young?

[Wolfhelm]

Who is Eorl the Young?

Correct Estelwyn!

Your turn.

[Estelwyn]

Correct Estelwyn!

Your turn.

Yay! Here's the next one:

She had ten servants - nine black cats and one white. She would set these evil creatures around Gondor to discover all of its secrets - whether wonderful or dark.

[Boraxxe]

Yay! Here's the next one:

She had ten servants - nine black cats and one white. She would set these evil creatures around Gondor to discover all of its secrets - whether wonderful or dark.

Who is Queen Berúthiel?

Aragorn mentioned her to the Hobbits when he was reassuring them about the skills of Gandalf.

He is surer of finding the way home in a blind night than the cats of Queen Berúthiel.

J.R.R. Tolkien. The Lord of the Rings (p. 311). Harper Collins, Inc.. Kindle Edition.

And I'm not so sure the cats were "evil".
Now, the queen...that's another story.

[Estelwyn]

Who is Queen Berúthiel?

Aragorn mentioned her to the Hobbits when he was reassuring them about the skills of Gandalf.
J.R.R. Tolkien. The Lord of the Rings (p. 311). Harper Collins, Inc.. Kindle Edition.

And I'm not so sure the cats were "evil".
Now, the queen...that's another story.

You are correct,Boraxxe!

(Tolkien, Unfinished Tales)

"Queen Berúthiel a Black Númenórean, was the loveless, ruthless, evil, and solitary wife of Tarannon - the twelfth king of Gondor, (First of the "Ship Kings" ) despised everything from the house her Husband built to the ocean. She hated color, decoration, thus robed all in black and silver. The garden of her house in Osgiliath were "filled with tormented sculptures beneath cypresses and yews." She had ten servants - nine black cats and one white. The evil Queen would set these evil creatures around Gondor to discover all of its secrets - whether wonderful or dark, placing the white cat among the black ones to spy on them and torment them. Then the cats would converse with the Queen, and the Queen would at times read their minds.

The people of Gondor dreaded the Ten Cats, and were too afraid to touch them, cursing with anger at the very sight of them. The men, especially, despised them, for the Queen used the cats most to find out what "...men wish most to keep hidden." The Queen's name was erased from the Book of Kings (Though men still remembered the Cats and the Queen, a dark memory with a ripple of fear). Queen Berúthiel's lack of love caused Tarannon to be the first childless monarch. Tarannon, seeing his wife for what she was, had her set assail on a ship with all ten cats borne by a wind from the north. "The ship was last seen flying past Umbar under a sickle moon, with a cat at the masthead and another as a figure-head on the prow." "