105 valar is a rip off for what you get

[Sherush]

you are missing a lot of stuff out of the that valar compared to 120 130 and 140 for same price.... 1 token no tractionarys..... that is not good and a handicap for some coming to a server to raid and have no other alts on that server - that either should be fixed up or lower that price.

[istvana]

For reasons best known to themselves they have always charged the same for Valars that go to lower levels and have fewer goodies included. I believe the Valar to 50 costs less and the Valar from 50 to a higher level costs less but those are the exceptions.

Note that if you want to level up quickly (but not as fast as a Valar) you can create a character on Shadowfax while it still exists if you are VIP. Permanent 150% xp there. Free transfer off when it is shut down.

Note that if you want the virtues included in the package more than the level skipping - the 50-105 (if I remember the number rightly) is a particularly good choice since it has almost as much Virtue for significantly fewer points.

[Sherush]

For reasons best known to themselves they have always charged the same for Valars that go to lower levels and have fewer goodies included. I believe the Valar to 50 costs less and the Valar from 50 to a higher level costs less but those are the exceptions.

Note that if you want to level up quickly (but not as fast as a Valar) you can create a character on Shadowfax while it still exists if you are VIP. Permanent 150% xp there. Free transfer off when it is shut down.

Note that if you want the virtues included in the package more than the level skipping - the 50-105 (if I remember the number rightly) is a particularly good choice since it has almost as much Virtue for significantly fewer points.

Issue came up cause kin from Treebeard went to live to raid at 105 and we all discovered the real issues with 105 valar all you get with it are LI. Nothing else for them but got 3 runes for level 70 max…. Terrible price if you compare higher valars.

[istvana]

The 50-105 Valar which I bought for the virtues more than anything else has an absolutely pathetic set of legendary items included. No traceries at all (they give enough ancient script to buy a few but if you don't have script already both LIs will be almost empty). Plus, they aren't even reforged to 105 - you need to spend gold for an immediate reforge and if you are new to the server you do not *have* the gold. What they give with the Valar is not enough. Your criticism is very well founded.

[Tralfazz]

I’ve gotten 50, 105, 120, and 130 Valars – mostly from the freebies distributed during the 2022 Anniversary event. While “ripoff” isn’t the way I’d characterize it, the 105 Valar did seem like a poor value relative to the others. It just seems incomplete, as if when the new LI system was instituted somebody didn’t finish the job on this specific Valar package. It’s perfectly fine other than the lack of traceries and runes for the LIs and the item level of the LIs (or the extra gold needed to reforge them).

[Hoppendi]

It's more like a ripoff since it is fewer levels and less value. It also sucked before the new LI system.
120 valar gave 2 first age max weapons while 105 gave something like 2 third ages without anything at all. it is incomplete and whenever people ask me about valar (i had all of them except the upgrade jumps) i always tell them do 120, 130 or nothing. well now 140 could be a thing. but really everyone paying full price for 105 will feel sad if the buyer finds out what other packages have.