Flying Mounts finally arrived in LOTRO!

[Hecki]

God, I like the new flying mounts in LOTRO






All joking aside... There is a bug with the warsteed with human man race with hard braking.

[Once_of_Bree]

God, I like the new flying mounts in LOTRO


All joking aside... There is a bug with the warsteed with human man race with hard braking.

It is hilarious watching all the humans flying around, further proof of something I've been increasingly sure of SSG do no in game testing of any change. How else could they miss ride war steed, dismount, oh dear ...

[Lambtron]

God, I like the new flying mounts in LOTRO






All joking aside... There is a bug with the warsteed with human man race with hard braking.

That's going to bee one hell of a bug report...

[DoRonRon]

It is hilarious watching all the humans flying around, further proof of something I've been increasingly sure of SSG do no in game testing of any change. How else could they miss ride war steed, dismount, oh dear ...

My experience of the post mount animation was when dual boxing. The character affected would see the anomalous behaviour but the other client and presumably any other players would see the standard animations. I specifically set up the second client to record the passing affected character and they walked by looking the same as usual.

I'd like to see a video of "all the humans flying" but it maybe misleading to suggest this is the case for whoever is to put in a fix. Emotes and other required animations are carried out just all return to an incorrect default state for that client.

[Elmagor]

From last Cord of the Rings: Cordovan: we can do them. I can't 100% say no we never have them. It depends on how cool flying mounts can be, and how many players want to have them

[TesalionLortus]

From last Cord of the Rings: Cordovan: we can do them. I can't 100% say no we never have them. It depends on how cool flying mounts can be, and how many players want to have them

That's not exactly how he put it but well, yeah, it is not a total no. Anyway... lore-wise is easier than what we've got recently :P They don't even need to use eagles and keep their dignity, so to speak. It's not unlikely to run into some flying creatures/larger animals akin to eagles somewhere in Rhun, perhaps, and just say your character tamed one. There can be like an entire storyline about it. But as Cord said... the real problem is off the ground, lol. And Cordovan was pretty much very optimistic there, but I wouldn't :P I mean... all those... unfinished lands and weirdness immediately visible from a bit higher above. I'm sure Scenario would have to go back everywhere and flesh everything out on immediate horizon, even places they're not going to yet They could put some clouds as well, maybe, but still, that plus some technical problems, can be very problematic. Boats are probably easy, compared to that

[Scenario]

I would not put high hopes on flying mounts in LOTRO for a variety of different reasons (lore and implementation are two of the largest challenges - plus the entirety of the game not being built to support them). There are other modes of transportation that would be more viable and more topical to things we are working on, should we decide to introduce new modes of travel.

[Silmelin]

I would not put high hopes on flying mounts in LOTRO for a variety of different reasons (lore and implementation are two of the largest challenges - plus the entirety of the game not being built to support them). There are other modes of transportation that would be more viable and more topical to things we are working on, should we decide to introduce new modes of travel.

If you ever do decide to try a flying mount in the future you could put it in an Instance especially made with that in mind Like a scouting mission with a young eagle we befriend or maybe as an Instanced dream sequence

Personally I'm not interested in flying mounts, but in case you both want to add them and don't want to add them, there are ways to do both

[TesalionLortus]

There are other modes of transportation that would be more viable and more topical to things we are working on, should we decide to introduce new modes of travel.

You mean... other than boats? Running ostriches? Sabretooth mount?

[Pontin_Finnberry]

You mean... other than boats? Running ostriches? Sabretooth mount?

I would like to see a Camel Mount one day, they would fit along side adding harad region.

[Silmelin]

You mean... other than boats? Running ostriches? Sabretooth mount?

I want a warrior elf as a mount! They would be so useful, especially when crossing rivers! Imagine a hobbit lass carried on his back, him with an annoyed frown and a slighly bent back from the weight of all the pots and pans and sacks of food she's bringing along. Long elf legs will keep you dry when crossing water!

[Elmagor]

I would like to see a Camel Mount one day, they would fit along side adding harad region.

Mumakil Mount... just 32% speed run

[Aethilods]

I would not put high hopes on flying mounts in LOTRO for a variety of different reasons (lore and implementation are two of the largest challenges - plus the entirety of the game not being built to support them). There are other modes of transportation that would be more viable and more topical to things we are working on, should we decide to introduce new modes of travel.

Seeing how 35.1 is... I wouldn't say using "lore" as an excuse to not change things... since SSG has shown no care for this.

[Seregthol]

Seeing how 35.1 is... I wouldn't say using "lore" as an excuse to not change things... since SSG has shown no care for this.

Sad but true. They could just put a beard on the flying mount...and then they wouldn't have to worry about the lore at all.

[Orlox]

I would not put high hopes on flying mounts in LOTRO for a variety of different reasons (lore and implementation are two of the largest challenges - plus the entirety of the game not being built to support them). There are other modes of transportation that would be more viable and more topical to things we are working on, should we decide to introduce new modes of travel.

Since when does SSG give two ####s about the lore?

[DoRonRon]

For a joke thread on the man issues since the patch seem somewhat off topic to bring up "the done to death" discussion on flying mounts. Why not explain why it it all came to pass and escaped into the Live game instead?

If above your pay grade, we'd welcome something from the one who is at that grade. Is it the committee that musters for a Producer of the game?

[Devolved]

I don't currently have a pig in the race, but if I did...

[Fealhach]

Flying mounts are never going to happen. Never should happen (Lore). The game isn't built that way. The tech isn't there.

Instead of spending half the livestream talking about something that's not going to happen we could have had an explanation as to why the update was rushed out without further testing, address some of the bugs, what is being done to rectify all the issues and what the lore reasons are for Beards and who authorised it, with a promise to never do anything so totally stupid ever again.

I'm guessing the next mount will be something like a Bactrian Camel, cos you know.... The Beard......

[TesalionLortus]

Flying mounts are never going to happen. Never should happen (Lore). The game isn't built that way. The tech isn't there.

I strongly disagree lore makes this impossible. I would even disagree with Scenario that lore is one of the greatest challenges - far from it! Because they wouldn't need to add eagles nor drakes, just a new type of larger bird creatures other than eagles (which fits the lore implications of this world), from some distant lands or jungles, or some less proud, less "intelligent" biological cousins of the eagles. Framed in a way that taming them is not common but make unique storyline about a player taming/befriending one. Done. But yeah, the tech isn't there and the world wasn't designed for it, like Scenario said, which makes flying mounts very unlikely to happen.

[Elmagor]

I strongly disagree lore makes this impossible. I would even disagree with Scenario that lore is one of the greatest challenges - far from it! Because they wouldn't need to add eagles nor drakes, just a new type of larger bird creatures other than eagles (which fits the lore implications of this world), from some distant lands or jungles, or some less proud, less "intelligent" biological cousins of the eagles. Framed in a way that taming them is not common but make unique storyline about a player taming/befriending one. Done. But yeah, the tech isn't there and the world wasn't designed for it, like Scenario said, which makes flying mounts very unlikely to happen.

IMHO different SSG members have different approach to lore. From what I seen Scenario and MoL care more about lore when other people

[TesalionLortus]

IMHO different SSG members have different approach to lore. From what I seen Scenario and MoL care more about lore when other people

Well, but that's the thing, that's natural, so regardless of what the individual approaches are, there should be like one "brainiac" who makes sure there is some internal consistency by the end of the day and things end up somewhat appealing within SSG's own world, not just utterly off.

[Radhruin_EU]

I strongly disagree lore makes this impossible. I would even disagree with Scenario that lore is one of the greatest challenges - far from it! Because they wouldn't need to add eagles nor drakes, just a new type of larger bird creatures other than eagles (which fits the lore implications of this world)

It doesn't, as the Eagles were created specifically by the Valar to be the Messengers of Manwe. They're not just one example of huge birds. Just like the Ents were made to look after the forests, they're special creations, not representative of anything else. Likewise on the evil side where the 'fell beasts' the Nazgul rode hadn't naturally been so big and Sauron had used his power to make them large enough for his servants to ride.

The real problem though is that there'll be an awful lot of stuff in the game-world that's simply not designed to be viewed from a high angle or above and would look awful. When WoW introduced flying mounts to Azeroth they had to redo the whole place. Now imagine that applied to LOTRO as a whole. So not happening on that basis alone, even if it were otherwise achievable.

[TesalionLortus]

Just like the Ents were made to look after the forests, they're special creations, not representative of anything else.

And yet we have huorns, and - in the game - bog-lurkers, wood-trolls, earth-kin, giant insects of all kinds that must have "evolved" somewhat rather than all be just spewed out of Shelob's belly and other varieties of creatures larger than they should. That really wouldn't be such a problem, and who is to say there weren't more of such types of creatures specifically created by the Valars for some other purposes, initially.

But yeah, really, Scenario redoing all the terrible things invisible to players or just making sure they aren't popping up from random angles for players when higher above ground is a troublesome picture You know, like that giant Minecraft wall West of Rohan... but even just climbing atop Minas Gil in Mirkwood will give you a bit wider look into very distant less polished/undeveloped terrain in live game, but mount would have to fly even higher than that perhaps and there are lots of tricky elevation differences within the world anyway, thanks to SSG's great design and sense of realness, so like they're less focused on designing for the gamey world and more for the real world (which I guess is opposite for wow), not to mention a sense of some places like mountains would be vastly diminished and toyish and they can't make even higher mountains due to limitations

[Fealhach]

I strongly disagree lore makes this impossible.

If the Fellowship had had flying mounts they could have just flown to Mount Doom. And as there are only nine Nazgul you just simply take an extra member in the fellowship to counter that, so Fatty Bolger gets to go along and has his own ride. At least one of the fellowship get through then.

If there are flying mounts all over Middle-earth capable of carrying people then the Great Eagles are obsolete and they are no longer a big deal and it reduces their importance to the story. No one will be saying "The Eagles are coming!" anymore.

The same with if Longbeard Dwarves had Burglars. They wouldn't have need of Bilbo and so we wouldn't have The Hobbit.

Or if Human females had Beards. Because if they did it would make Female Dwarves completely unremarkable and not uniquely beautiful as they are.

This isn"t Westeros where everyone and his uncle mount Dragons.

And messing with the Lore causes a butterfly effect whilst also disrespecting and disregarding what Tolkien wrote in the first place.

[TesalionLortus]

If the Fellowship had had flying mounts they could have just flown to Mount Doom.

If there are flying mounts all over Middle-earth

And if you read my post again - said nothing of common flying mounts all over the place nor fellowship being anywhere near where they can be found (nevermind having the time to successfully find/tame/use one). So really, nothing is invalidated, wouldn't be much different than that one player high elf wounded by a Nazgul. Anyway... flying mounts are not possible either way but yeah, disagree lore is a big issue with this one if it was done right (so by right, I also mean that one would have to be limited to higher level range, narratively after War of the Ring)