Which class is most "ezmode"?

[head0nfire]

Shield (healing) wardens have a field day with reavers, and pretty much every other class. Spear (DPS) wardens not so much unless they kite with javs.

A shield warden can have a field day with just about any creep class except spiders and wargs. Spiders have the upper hand against any melee class (although a warden should usually be able to outlast them in a 1v1). Wargs it's kidn of different.... if the warg really knows how to play his class and how to play the warden's weaknesses, a warg can kill a shield traited warden, although it may take some CD's (and I think CD's are fair game against healing gambits). As for spear traited warden vs. reaver, that is probably one of the most balanced fights in the game, right there with OP guard vs. reaver. The outcome of those could go either way, depending on the players and crits/BPE.

[LC25]

as if they need it.

not at all saying they need one, just sayin that this is one of the reasons thats proves they are not op

[scaliper]

Hmm...hard to say. In terms of easiest to rack up kills on...Freepside it'd have to be the burg. It's really frustrating when there's a stealthed burg camping gram waiting for lowbie creeps to come walking out. Just sneak up behind them, aim, pop an attack, stun, and you've won. You have to pick your battles, though.
In terms of a big battle on freepside...probably one of three: The hunter, the warden, or the guardian. Guardians and wardens have no inductions, guardians mitigate left and right, and wardens can heal themselves. I'd actually give the win to the warden, in being able to also do annoying things with ambush and all them. The hunter...is a bit squishy, but that should honestly not be too much of a problem in a big battle. Actually, one of the things that annoys me to no end is the fact that hunters have longer range than BAs. Just doesn't make sense.
Just a note: Take that with a grain of salt. It's only based on watching the kiesters of myself and others being kicked that I say this. I haven't played in the moors freepside.

On creepside...Hard to say. 1v1 I honestly have no idea, since I try to avoid such things at all costs. In a big battle...probably the BA. As long as you stay behind your melee-ers and are careful not to target anything not under attack, you should be alright.

[Tumgruk]

Every creep class is ez-mode, really. It's not hard to do well when you hide in your NPC's all day.

[CodeofMisconduct]

A well-played Champ.

[klover307]

A well-played Champ.

hahaha

never heard that one before

[Grimbran]

Every creep class is ez-mode, really. It's not hard to do well when you hide in your NPC's all day.

Now now, this isn't a flaming post to vent on. Besides, I see you and the freeps retreating behind bridge, TR, and ec npc's all the time too. Whomever doesn't have a numbers advantage in group vs group always does that whichever side it is. Nobody will just stupidly choose to get steamrolled by the obviously stronger side when there is a better tactical option available.

On-topic, Id say the answer is different based on large group vs 1,2 or maybe 3-man groups. On creepside in large groups, ranged classes (BA and weaver) are easy. In small groups and 1v1, it shifts to the melee (reavers and wargs).

I don't play the moors on freeps side, but from what i see its very similar. With the exception of RK's, as they seem to steamroll most things in either situation as long as they start the battle at range. Who got the jump on whom is a major factor though on the 1v1 and small groups side.(where wargs and burgs excel)

[Aedon]

Freepside-RK-Jedi Knights (I am not the warg you are seeking.)

Creepside-Reaver-Slash and dash

[alex-gab58]

i am by no means trying to QQ about reavers bpe/mits, i dont think i burg should be able to go toe to toe with a reaver honestly, but seriously blowing that much on him hipsing offensively and everything just to get him hardly to half health is just stupid.

always chain counter defence(and trait it) a reaver and the reaver should not be able to bpe

[TheLegendaryGoat]

hahaha

never heard that one before

because you will never fit that description

[Minelavaa]

If you're getting away with having 1v1's, then your opponents are going easy on you, or don't know how to PvP and break up 1v1's. We are at war....or so we thought..

Herp derp Candy Mountain Derp.

[klover307]

because you will never fit that description

1v1 goat?

abc123

[ysnpwhite]

As stated above, ezmode is a playstyle, not a class. That being said, I think guard is by far easiest on freepside, and on creep probably a well played weaver.

as for 1v1ing with my burg.. i found myself hitting with my full hele set max crit rating SS for 900 damage with the QK capstone and almost maxed damage from stealth/ positional damage legs. i told myself okay ill just dance with him a little with dust in his face in TaG and get some crit chains out. by the end of at least 5 crit chains the 9k reaver was down to about 7k... so i said okay ill hip RaA re trip loc/aim and get another ss out and while still in TaG he turned around and dev striked me for my remaining 2k health. i got him to about 5k health after the last SS and a crit chain or two and came no where close to killing him even after using 2 perfect SS's on him WHILE i was in TaG for one lol. i am by no means trying to QQ about reavers bpe/mits, i dont think i burg should be able to go toe to toe with a reaver honestly, but seriously blowing that much on him hipsing offensively and everything just to get him hardly to half health is just stupid.

Honestly, with the way things are now a Burg shouldn't have too much trouble going toe-to-toe with a reaver without blowing CDs, unless they don't get in their hit from stealth. And honestly, even when reavers had 37% westernesse mit and I was using a second age with westernesse I never came close to hitting SS for 900. Minimum would have been at lest 1.2k. If you went through 5 crit chains and only took the reaver down 2k morale then either you were using like a lvl 60 LI, or you've got like 0 might/melee offence.

[TheLegendaryGoat]

1v1 goat?

abc123

Yep. Bring your creep. Loser deletes their toon.

[klover307]

Honestly, with the way things are now a Burg shouldn't have too much trouble going toe-to-toe with a reaver without blowing CDs, unless they don't get in their hit from stealth. And honestly, even when reavers had 37% westernesse mit and I was using a second age with westernesse I never came close to hitting SS for 900. Minimum would have been at lest 1.2k. If you went through 5 crit chains and only took the reaver down 2k morale then either you were using like a lvl 60 LI, or you've got like 0 might/melee offence.

haven't brought my burg out since the update tbh don't really care for the play style.

and no i have a hele set for my SS and my silent knife set macro'd to switch to after the initial SS from stealth with my might capped and a pretty high offense rating. perfectly fine 65 2nd age dagger with a bag to match crit chain and damage legs on both. honestly the westernese is where the problem was at and i havent really had the want to play my burg and 1v1 with him often enough, but the point goes back to original question of which class is the most ezmode.

Reavers in 1v1s, especially R6+ are the easiest to play and win with pretty consistently ive beaten higher ranked burgs on my r5 reaver, its not that hard.

as for

Yep. Bring your creep. Loser deletes their toon.

no

bring your warg ill bring my champ loser deletes, but i know ezmoding is all your about anywho.

[TheLegendaryGoat]

no

bring your warg ill bring my champ loser deletes, but i know ezmoding is all your about anywho.

I play freepside now so yes I love easy mode in the world of uber DPS, AOE, CC and massive crits. The reason this game is a joke for 1v1 is because you can herp derp a 4k crit and win a random 1v1. Does that make you skillful? Nope. When you want to fight me let me know. I will gladly take your toons and fraps me deleting them from the game and post it on youtube.

[Kisra]

no

And you continue to talk smack even after this retreat? I love how freeps used to claim their ownage at our hands was due to creeps being overpowered/easy-mode but now that we're playing on the truly easy-mode side they can't recreate the ownage that befell them by jumping on their creeps.

You're trash.

Dismissed.

[dragerslayer]

freepside goes to warden, 65 lvls are enough to teach you how to play decent and a decent warden is very destructive, rk is second, kiting plus slow and stun= ezmode

creepside i really wouldn't no, never PVP'd freepside,

i've heard alot bout reaver being easy cause of damage, mitigations and others how ever in my experience this is the reason it's not ezmode a soon as a reaver pulls charge or takes a step into range we get stunned and mezzed, rooted and DPSed, dotted and debuffed and lastly slowed. usually i find myself bored watching longranged mini, lm, rk ,champ, hunter vs. weaver, occasional dead(brave) warg , warleader, defiler. either thaty or i'm dead. Only seems fun when we hit melle distance as a group and i got heals on me. or when i get a nice one on one. or when i get somehing slowed and go beast with the damage.

[OGsam]

What is this Fast and the Furious? Racing for Pink-Slips? I lol'd.

[klover307]

I play freepside now so yes I love easy mode in the world of uber DPS, AOE, CC and massive crits. The reason this game is a joke for 1v1 is because you can herp derp a 4k crit and win a random 1v1. Does that make you skillful? Nope. When you want to fight me let me know. I will gladly take your toons and fraps me deleting them from the game and post it on youtube.

so you decline a 1v1 with mains? sure thing

[Celestrata]

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