Update 19.1 Release Notes

[Kostas2112]

• Bleeds from different Wardens now stack with each other.

Thanks for that. Really.

[GIR-dog]

Yes because wardens really needed more stacking bleeds.

[BotLike]

Thanks for killing the little endgame stuff we had.
Now we can get better jewels with harvesting stupid flowers instead of doing the raid T2C, dumbest idea ever.

This game became a garden simulator, say goodbye to all hardcore pve guild.

Agreed. I didn't see that coming and i don't see the reasoning behind it. Very disappointed , i start to doubt my faith in the current team....

[Kostas2112]

Yes because wardens really needed more stacking bleeds.

That's not relevant at all.

We're talking about a bug here. Having 2 wardens on the same group was bad, cause SoV, PS and US bleeds from different wardens didnt stack with each other.

This doesnt happen with any other class. Your fellowship must not restrict your dps. thats wrong.

[siipperi]

That's not relevant at all.

We're talking about a bug here. Having 2 wardens on the same group was bad, cause SoV, PS and US bleeds from different wardens didnt stack with each other.

This doesnt happen with any other class. Your fellowship must not restrict your dps. thats wrong.

LM?

[Pavlosh]

Agreed. I didn't see that coming and i don't see the reasoning behind it. Very disappointed , i start to doubt my faith in the current team....

If a new set of instances and raid is being worked on for next year, I am more than willing to accept U19 will be a low-cost, low maintenance update and don't really care if a few jewels are obsolete along the way. To be perfectly honest the raid jewellery was not much better than the FI stuff anyway.

On the plus side, the Hilt of Eärnil is remaining best in slot for the pocket. It will be a sad day when this item, which is full of character unlike the vast majority of dull faceless gear, is finally replaced by some crafted trash.

"Although it remains unclear if the blade was truly his, this ornate hilt was borne into battle by Eärnil II while under the influence of the Gloom of Nurn."

[Oelle]

seems like hardcore raiders only care about loot and not about the raid really.
shouldn't you play the raid because you like raiding?
i play content which i like. perfect gear is not needed for lotro.
i would only use the new BiS gear from flowerbarters, if i wanted to go raiding in T2c, so in the end, it makes the raid more viable. there is still BiS armor... which most players will never get.
other players might use it to play PvMP. why should you be forced to raid to play pvmp? if theres no actual pvmp gear, you still want good equipment there. not everyone is interested in raiding and might still be interested in good gear. its needed for nothing, still people like it. why shouldnt turbine give people what they like? they dont take anything from you raiders, they just give everyone more options... really sad you are so sad about this

[CM-Amenophis]

So they lowered the Item Level on Flower Jewellery from 246 to 234, wonder how much that is in stats.

[Kostas2112]

LM?

LM what? can you be more specific? I havent played my LM since a long time so i dont know what you mean.

If you mean that there's a bug, that when 2 LM's are on the same group one of them overwrites the other ones dots, then it should be fixed also asap.

If Turbine wants to nerf wardens a bit, they can remove the massive self heals from red line, or the light dmg trait from blue or anything you like, but no other member of a fellowship must be allowed to criple your dps, thats wrong, its a clear bug and must be corrected.

[NeebPlayer]

While i have no interest to upgrade to this its just sad what imaginable crowd they trying to please. But apparently one gonna need that 3 slot jewellery to do throne so after this all roleplayers and similar gonna have throne t2cm on the farm.

But this is exactly the intended chain! You get BiS from flower picking, then you farm the raid for roleplay accessories like dog pet, siege tower garden decor and the like. Then, you can roleplay.

I hath seen everything. I hath done everything. Now, I just roleplay in my luxurious mansion, you peasants!

[dwarfThar]

So they lowered the Item Level on Flower Jewellery from 246 to 234, wonder how much that is in stats.

Uhm, did they?

Flora - Incomparable Jewellery is now available at the Herbalist. This is a level 246 item with 3 sockets.

[Oelle]

While i have no interest to upgrade to this its just sad what imaginable crowd they trying to please. But apparently one gonna need that 3 slot jewellery to do throne so after this all roleplayers and similar gonna have throne t2cm on the farm.

if all you need to get t2c throne on farmstatus is good equipment, the raid is very bad designed
i wouldnt agree with that.

on the other hand: it totally should be in turbines interest to allow everyone to finish the raidcontent everyone paid for :P

[DKenny]

I am quite sure this has to do with the recent hunter update. No idea under which circumstances they tested his dps, but I assume they did not want to exaggeratethe damage output. After players found the most effective builds and rotas, the devs can/could work with those values.

It seems like a rather bizarre choice of counterbalance to withhold main stat from medium armour out of concern that the extra agility would cause hunters to become OP (it clearly will not). It's not even the best armour available. I guess they must be really worried then about hunters with Throne raid armour. Maybe they should nerf that quick before hunters start to dominate the game.

[siipperi]

if all you need to get t2c throne on farmstatus is good equipment, the raid is very bad designed
i wouldnt agree with that.

on the other hand: it totally should be in turbines interest to allow everyone to finish the raidcontent everyone paid for :P

Thats the point. If people were unable to do it before these, they are unable do it with these. They just pissing off raiders...

seems like hardcore raiders only care about loot and not about the raid really.
shouldn't you play the raid because you like raiding?
i play content which i like. perfect gear is not needed for lotro.
i would only use the new BiS gear from flowerbarters, if i wanted to go raiding in T2c, so in the end, it makes the raid more viable. there is still BiS armor... which most players will never get.
other players might use it to play PvMP. why should you be forced to raid to play pvmp? if theres no actual pvmp gear, you still want good equipment there. not everyone is interested in raiding and might still be interested in good gear. its needed for nothing, still people like it. why shouldnt turbine give people what they like? they dont take anything from you raiders, they just give everyone more options... really sad you are so sad about this

I used lvl100 gear for long without any problems in pvp. Its no issue, just bad excuses.

[AdeGee]

Isn't this post in the wrong thread Cordovan?

Surely Release notes should go in Release Notes thread?

Forgive me if I am wrong. XD

[CM-Amenophis]

Uhm, did they?

U are correct, missread from my side Skirmish Loot is 234, sorry.

[Gandalphor]

I am very disapointed with this update.
Yes, there are certain good things coming with it, but...

1. There is now new jewelry available that is better than the raid one by 12 stat and 34 morale points. Couldn't this have been an upgraded raid jewelry? Unless you're planing that upgrade for later... This is only repeating the story that happened with the hilt of Earnil. Raid jewelry isn't as rare as the hilt, granted, but at least it required some skill other than running.
And just like the supreme armour... Other than the fancy name does anyone think that 72 stat and 408 morale (more than the armour, granted) is worthy of a raider? And yes, emphasis on the raider here, because for FI and landscape, you can have lvl 50 gear if you like.

2. How much can people working on this game actually not know the game? So, now we should be getting a very rare crafting item tied to a vocation and it doesn't even drop your item when opening it, but you have a 1 in 6 chance on top of the rare chance. So apart from having to be lucky, you now also need to have all vocations maxed to not miss out if you get that item, if that item is account bound. At least you could have added changing them for the correct ones for aditional flowers, if nothing else. Because of this all extracts and related item from flowers should be made account bound. I have 5 raid ready characters. Don't know if I'll be able to get all the stuff even untill the end of the game at this rate.

[Pereg]

So here is the Creep buff that you said wasn't enough to make a difference, and BONUS! Warden-Packs in the 'Moors. Enjoy.

[Elgrind]

Finally some fix for LM from u13,14 :-)

For 3slots jewells from Flora barter, i dont mind if casual/non raider can grab it.
In the fact they arent impact to raiders, in the good way raiders have better/another access to good jewells for their alts!!!
Also it will encourage t1 raiders to raid up on t2!!!

In this case we should able to upgrade for t2c raid jewell aswell, so they will be the best jewells in the game.
F.ex. same stats like golden ring from beta u19( 300+main stats/ 1024 morale and 3slots).
Also raid cloak should be upgrade able to be has 1 essences slots!!!!

[Latanab]

For 3slots jewells from Flora barter, i dont mind if casual/non raider can grab it.
In the fact they arent impact to raiders, in the good way raiders have better/another access to good jewells for their alts!!!
Also it will encourage t1 raiders to raid up on t2!!!

Casual players should NOT have better jewellery than a raiding player.
With this change, it makes the raiding jewellery pointless. And now any casual player can get better gear than an endgame player. This should NOT happen.

[Lasi]

on the other hand: it totally should be in turbines interest to allow everyone to finish the raidcontent everyone paid for :P

I would imagine that is why tier 1 and tier 2 was introduced so that everyone can complete but those who wish for it to require good gear and for it to be a challenge have that option also.

I am also firmly against the idea of the new jewellery as a player who has not yet, but intends to gain the t2 raid rewards.

While enjoyment is my focus, part of the motivation to complete the t2 content is to be rewarded with something more than what can be achieved by farming the landscape for flowers which requires only time not skill.

[Despariel]

Finally, Windlore bug is fixed. Very good, but it was long overdue...
Why again should flower picking grant better stuff than FI or the Raid?

But what concerns me most…..is actually no one worried about the lack of further hunter adjustments/buffs? Weren’t they promised for the dot updates?

[Oddessia]

Awesome, myself and others give in-depth analysis detailing why this Creep buff is nowhere near enough, and it gets totally ignored. Why do you even put it in Beta if you don't ever listen to feedback?

This is exactly what I said too. What was the point of that BR testing? It's actually almost more insulting to put out a smoke-screen BR test, knowing full well they had no intention of listening to the feedback; than it is to just make the changes and do no BR at all. I am disappointed.


But not to be totally negative, I am very happy for the Warden love, LM fix, and jewellery options...YAY! Thank you

[Cordovan]

Isn't this post in the wrong thread Cordovan?

Surely Release notes should go in Release Notes thread?

Forgive me if I am wrong. XD

Yes, I put it in the wrong place. To preserve the comments, I'll create a new thread in Release Notes.

[Anduil]

Just for clarification about "warden bug fixing" - we just made the test:

Unerring Strike - aka the big bleed - now stacks. Great!

All single traget light-dots - aka Spear of Virtue, Piercing Strike and Precise Strike - still do NOT STACK.

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Cheers,
Vala