Quote Originally Posted by Spilo View Post
Hm, then it comes to a simple difference of opinion. That being said, others have done the math (look at the first post); I find the grind to be massive from any standpoint. Considering just how many Scrolls of Empowerment it requires now, I'm not sure how you could think otherwise. That being said, at least I'm clear on your standpoint now.

The OP has put forth several mathematical calculations.

One set compares LIs to ILIs. This math is comparing, in effect, the cost to get a Yugo vs. the cost to get a Mustang. A "maxxed out LI" is a very different item than a "maxxed out ILI." At least, if you're going to compare them, add a multiplier to the maxxed out LI cost, so that we're talking something arguably comparable. We can then argue about whether the current multiplier ought to be 2 or 3.

If you do a straight comparison, of course the cost/effort to get a maxxed out ILI is substantially more than the cost/effort to get a maxxed out LI. The same way a Mustang cost substantially more than a Yugo.

The math set in the OP adds a huge multiplier to the ILI side: 10 character, and 24 ILIs. This multiplier is highly subjective, of course. I could want 3 ILIs for 12 characters, and then the multiplier would be 36x. In any event, as I note above, I do agree that the grind to max out multiple ILIs for multiple characters can be crushing. So how do you make it less crushing for the MCCS player like the OP, and not trivialize it for those with a single character with two ILIs (and there are a lot more of the latter)?

In addition, he also does the calculation in terms of pure SoMs, which are not the most effective way to gets ASEs. SoMs clearly are the route for crystals now, and I wouldn't "waste" SOMs on ASEs. Even if you have surplus SOMs, I'd save them for the next boost in ILI tier caps.